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Ragnarok Logo?

Discussion in 'Borknagar' started by Rivfadír, Nov 19, 2006.

  1. Rivfadír

    Rivfadír Fuzzy Old One

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    I was looking in the booklet of a compilation I own the other day, and I noticed the picture of Ragnarok's album, and more significantly their logo. For those of you who havent seen it, here it is: [​IMG]

    Now, telle me if I'm crazy, but this would seem to be a blatant rip of the Borknagar logo. Is this some arrangement they've got or what?
     
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    Wow! That really is a blatant rip off of the Borknagar logo. And this is not their original logo either, they didn't start using this logo until 1997, strange noone has noticed it before.
    Still, the Borknagar logo looks a helluva lot better!
     
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    Zephyrus Tyrants and Slaves

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    If they lose the mjolnir it would be permissable.
     
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    That's right.

    is a shameful rip off... 0% creativity or 100% Borknagar fans :rofl:DDDDDDD
     
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    Evil Dead Hail to the King baby

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    Mjolnir is copyrighted?...
     
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    Pessimism Endemic Vagabond

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    ^Yup, copyrighted by faith and history.
     
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    It's a little more spikey and spidery, but the general shape of the words, the central A, the backwards last letter, everything is totally a ripoff!
     
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    Wow, that really is pretty identical!
     
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    And didn't the name Borknagar come from Ragnarok as well :lol:
     
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    I can see the relationship, but I'd always heard it was a play on "Loch Nagar"?
     
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    yup. it is a play of loch nagar.
    i saw a hoodie today, it had the emperor logo but id looked really alike to both of thse
     
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    Well quite a few bands use the backwards letter at the end and what not to have a symmetrical logo.
     
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    Yeah, that's on metal-archives but since the band is Norwegian and not Scottish I think a letter-scrambled 'rangnarok' with an extra b slapped in would be more likely :p
     
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    "Borknagar is a progressive metal band from Bergen, Norway founded in 1995 by Øystein Garnes Brun. The band's style combines folk metal and black metal with progressive and melodic elements. Borknagar's lyrics often deal with philosophy, paganism, nature, and the cosmos. The name Borknagar is an anagram of "Ragnarok", with a B thrown in to make it pronounceable (however, Øystein Brun stated once that the name was inspired by a Scottish myth about a man who climbed Loch Nagar, a mountain in Scotland)." - wikipedia
     
  15. Rivfadír

    Rivfadír Fuzzy Old One

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    But Loch means lake, doesn't it? It makes no sense to be calling a mountain a lake.

    And it's nice to see that I am not the only one to see this. They've got another version of it, that looks even more like Borknagar's but I couldn't find it online.
     
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    Nagar could mean moutain or something similar to that, in which case it could translate to "Mountain by the Lake". Just another possibility.
     
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    That's true, but if you actually overlaid the Ragnarok logo over the Borknalogo, there would be a considerable similarity... rather than just a similar concept & design.
     
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    Of definatly, there's no way I would even try to back that logo up. I thought someone else was talking about other bands using a backwards ending letter.
     
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    Which raises the question -- why would Øystein mislead the members of Ultimate Metal by telling them a story about a mountain which was not true? I remember reading the comment of his a couple of years ago where he mentioned the meaning of Borknagar, in contrast to the Ragnarok theory, and there was nothing in his comment that seemed to me to be deceptive.

    I would say Borknagar's music, particularly the olden domain, reflects a mountain by a lake (in winter) more so than a battle at the end of the world, but that is entirely subjective. There very well could be a wee prankster in Øystein for all I know.
     
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    sunofalightbulb More Kvlt Than Ever

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    personally, ripoff or not, i'll allow it. i like the sound of both bands. also, the wikipedia information aside, its a logo. originality should really shine through the music performed, and Ragnarok shows that.
     

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