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recommend me some avant-garde noise and jazz

Discussion in 'Non-Metal' started by livingtodie, Oct 29, 2006.

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  1. livingtodie

    livingtodie Member

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    so i've been lately getting into pain killer and naked city and all of
    john zorn's works, and it got me to wonder,
    are there more chaotic fast and brutal jazz/noise music out there
    outside the realm of metal?
    i know japan has a really good noise scene, but i don't know where
    to start. if anyone out there is versed in this field could you give me some
    recommendations?
     
    #1 livingtodie, Oct 29, 2006
  2. phonetic

    phonetic you got any garage?

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    Masonna
    Merzbow
    Aube
    Hijokaidan
    Hanatarash
    Mitchell Akiyama
    Incapacitants
    Government Alpha
    LSD March
    KK Null
    Sachiko M
    Whitehouse
    Bastard Noise
    Muslimgauze
    Yellow Swans
    Keiji Haino
    Throbbing Gristle
    Imminent Starvation
    Nurse With Wound

    That lot should give you a good introduction to noise/avant-garde/whatever you want to call it.
     
    #2 phonetic, Oct 29, 2006
  3. Teh Grimace

    Teh Grimace New Metal Member

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    trevor dunn's trio convulsant

    some of The Vandermark 5's stuff
     
    #3 Teh Grimace, Oct 30, 2006
  4. Perpetual Catatonia

    Perpetual Catatonia Member

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    I'm not a pro on this stuff, but... Crotchduster. Celtic Frost too, but you probably already know them.
     
    #4 Perpetual Catatonia, Oct 30, 2006
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    unknown fuck ftagn

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    this jazz group is phenomenal...love their stuff
     
    #5 unknown, Oct 30, 2006
  6. Hatebreeder

    Hatebreeder Pizzicato Heartstrings

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    duncang Ultimate-Guitar Reviewer

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    Naked City anyone?
     
    #7 duncang, Nov 11, 2006
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    unknown fuck ftagn

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    too bad V5 doesn't come here
     
    #8 unknown, Nov 12, 2006
  9. Teh Grimace

    Teh Grimace New Metal Member

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    also the FLYING motherfucking LUTTENBACHERS.

    as good and as dissonant as new 'jazz' gets.
     
    #9 Teh Grimace, Nov 12, 2006
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    Bird of prey kachkavalj

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    I also recommend Mike Patton's solo project "Adult Themes For Voice".
     
    #10 Bird of prey, Nov 12, 2006
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    I've seen a few good noise bands in my day. Sword Heaven are quite an experience, though I don't know how their albums stand up to their live performance.

    Swans (select releases) and MZ412 are two other good choices.
     
    #11 Sonnenritter, Nov 13, 2006
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    ohiogrinder New Metal Member

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    I know tons of noisecore

    DxIxE
    Final Exit
    Anal Massaker
    Vulgar Nausea
    Genital Masticator
    None Of Your Fucking Business
    Napalm Suck
    Cadaver Feast
    Rectal Leak
    Deche Charge
    Captain 3 Leg
    Potabilizadora
    Arsedestroyer
    (early) Anal Cunt
    Seven Minutes Of Nausea
    Excreted Alive
    Jangle


    give those bands a try
     
    #12 ohiogrinder, Nov 30, 2006
  13. ohiogrinder

    ohiogrinder New Metal Member

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    when was Celtic Frost avant garde noise or jazz?
     
    #13 ohiogrinder, Dec 1, 2006
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    I think some of their stuff seem's a bit Avant-Gardey. (Avant-Gardey?)
     
    #14 Perpetual Catatonia, Dec 1, 2006
  15. Teh Grimace

    Teh Grimace New Metal Member

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    if by "avant-garde" you mean "not avant-garde" then yes.
     
    #15 Teh Grimace, Dec 2, 2006
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    I can't stand that cd. I love Mike Patton and his projects, but the two solo cds of his that I've heard (Adult Themes and the one with the Italian Title) did absolutely nothing for me. Adult Themes for Voice is literally just Mike Patton screaming and making vocals noises into a tape recorder for half an hour.

    there's avant garde, and then there's just fucking pointless
     
    #16 unknown, Dec 2, 2006
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    Hatebreeder Pizzicato Heartstrings

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    "Don't mistake lack of talent for genius."

    This can be applied to most noise.
     
    #17 Hatebreeder, Dec 3, 2006
  18. Teh Grimace

    Teh Grimace New Metal Member

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    the last two posts are incorrect. please disregard.
     
    #18 Teh Grimace, Dec 3, 2006
  19. unknown

    unknown fuck ftagn

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    no, this post was correct
     
    #19 unknown, Dec 4, 2006
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    Great band.

    Anyways, as for avant-jazz:

    John Coltrane (late-period)
    Miles Davis's "Bitches Brew"
    Peter Brotzmann Octet
     
    #20 ResistExistence, Dec 4, 2006
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