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Reverb send on snare and toms

Discussion in 'Production' started by ArroldW, Sep 17, 2011.

  1. ArroldW

    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    I've been reading around the forum and I saw "... sending the snare and toms to a reverb send to make them blend better.." can anyone explain? I mean; I get that you add reverb to the snare and toms to make them fit better in the drum mix but when I think of sending the snare and toms to one track with reverb on it I think of a louder/duller snare and toms in the mix...:ill:
     
  2. ahjteam

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    Then you need to dial in a better reverb sound. Also remember to put the mix to 100% wet on the reverb
     
  3. ArroldW

    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    okay. so in working on a better reverb sound; which reverb is everyone else using for this? And how loud do you leave the send track in the drum mix.
     
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    ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen

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    Depends what you are after. Plate, hall or room.
     
  5. ArroldW

    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    and thank you for replying ;)
     
  6. ArroldW

    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    either plate or room. hall maybe for the HUGE snares for like rock bands would be nice to know how to use.
     
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    You have two tracks, Snare track, and reverb track.
    Send your snare to this reverb track. Get a nice reverb sound but make sure it's set to 100% wet so that only the wet processed signal is going trough.
    Add some Eq on your reverb track, Something like HP@300Hz, LP@6000Hz. You can also add some compression on it.
    Bring the volume completely down on your reverb track and slowly bring it up while listening to your whole mix. Blend to taste. Make sure not to make it too loud or it will muddy up the mix.
    You should look at the reverb on your snare as something that's there but not something that's popping out at you. So set it lightly.


    Hope I answered your question.
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    Usually something like a dark plate is just fine. You can set the pre-delay of your reverb to about 10 to 12ms.
     
  9. ArroldW

    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    SWEET. Thank you for the help. one absolutely last question. When sending the snare and toms do I send it post-fader [post pan] or pre-fader [post fx]? ([[I'm a reaper user haha]])
     
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    I always leave it as Post-Fader
     
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    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    Awesome. Thanks for the help _Jeff_ and ahjteam!
     
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    for the record, i almost never use fx sends. just plop the reverb right on the track.
     
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    Well damn I never expected that.

    What about delays and such?
     
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    ArroldW Sound Engineer/Producer

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    So add a reverb vst on the snare buss and another on the tom buss at 50% wet? :err:
     
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    It depends what you want to achieve. But 50% is pretty high in most cases. I only use sends if I want to get many Tracks into one effect.
     
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    an example... reverb on a vocal... you're gonna want like 1 - 5% wet at the most (depending on the reverb plugin)
     
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    delays would be inserts on tracks as well
    there's really no reason to use an fx send unless you need multiple instruments to work on the same reverb setting at once

    even then, you can bus those tracks into a common group and throw reverb on the group
     
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    If your using reverb and delay as inserts on snares and vocals and things like that, How do you cut out the junk frequencies from the reverb like anything below 300Hz and above 6Khz?
     
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    only 1-5%? but your vocals sound so wet and wiiiidddeeee. Maybe that has something to do with the multiple takes. What reverb do you happen to be using?
     
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    the reverb its self usually has settings for this
     

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