Its very interesting to see your lists, since you are all such big fans! Here's mine which includes several ties (I know, its cheating)... 1. Wake of Magellan 2. Streets 3. Handful of Rain ( Alex Skolnick is a personal hero, and 'Chance' is fucking brilliant) 4. HOTMK (This is a 'raw' as I want my Sava.. WHITE WITCH, WHITE WITCH) # There are genius bits here and there, but, they don't hold together as cohesive albums to me, as much as above 5. Dead Winter Dead 6. Poets and Madmen (Oddly, Morphine Child is my fav. Sava song. Don't know how to reconcile that with the blahness of the rest of the album) 7. Edge Of Thorns 8. Gutter Ballet # This stuff is so dry to me, I am thrilled to have listened to them but they don't age well for me. 9. Sirens, PoTN, Dungeons are Calling, Fight For the Rock I love Criss Oliva to death, and his playing, but I think Jon and Paul are the ones that created so much music that moved me. Even JOP's pain has all the thematic development and musical beauty that I expect out of Savatage, so you won't find me crying for a reunion anytime soon. Edit: I a) can't count, and, b) decided that there can be no ties with Sava.