Is that right Paxoman, so it's been Sammi all along those been outbidding me - well just you leave her in that bath then so she canny get near the computer!!!!!! I was after another 2 Saxon badges cos between seeing Robert Plant and Motorhead, I managed to lose 4 badges - 2 Saxon ones, a Scorpions one and a Skynyrd one. Wasn't bothered about the Skynyrd one but I managed to find the same Scorps one on ebay, so got that one, will need to go back on ebay right now and see if I can find 2 similar Saxon ones. I got outbid last night on a cool AngelWitch badge. This is the second time I've seen this particularly brill AW badge and both times I've went out and totally forgot the auction was ending. One of these days I'll get it, even if it kills me.