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Stereo Problems

Discussion in 'Production' started by Spokid, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Spokid

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    On my most recent mix, I noticed that when played in my car, the stereo image was much narrower than what it seemed when I was mixing/mastering, but when I try to widen it, things start to become negatively effected (for example, my hard panned guitars start to disappear, and everything in the middle, as a results, seems much louder).

    Anybody have any ideas for a nice, wide image without anything being lost in the mix?
     
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    EnjoiTrent Official Knob Turner

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    I use a stereo widener on my mastering chain, you could try that. Just work around and play around with your settings till you get that perfect sound.
     
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    I've been doing that, but it's been resulting in my guitars almost vanishing from the mix, like they're being pushed completely out of the song. Perhaps I just haven't set it to the right setting yet though. I'll keep trying to find the right spot.
     
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    Definitely pushing it too far can make it sound like they're vanishing, and too little can make them sound very close together. I suppose you just need to find the right spot for your mixes.
     
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    Be very careful when using a stereo widener, read up on what you are actually doing to your mix! This will explain the vanishing instruments!
     
  6. Vice//Versa

    Vice//Versa Dude among dudes

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    Yeah, I wouldn't put a stereo widener on a master bus for the life of me, i heard bulb talk about trying to widen his guitars to leave more space in the center but I dont even think normal composition would require that... but periphery can have a shit ton of stuff going on and there arrangements can get busy at times. Try using a stereo imaging plugin to monitor what's going on with your stereo image and if your having phasing issues.
     
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    Vice//Versa Dude among dudes

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    The entire interview is actually quite interesting but there's the link where he talks about stereo widening. Hope it's somewhat useful :)

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    Dave's tutorials for Reason was the first experience I ever had making digital music. Everything he does is actually pretty sick. Stereo Wideners seem to have a strong opinion on both sides for whether or not to use them. I personally use them, but I'm not saying everyone should. It just seems to work for me.
     
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    Vice//Versa Dude among dudes

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    Yeah, Dave is pretty awesome (his cover of gentleman, "djentleman" lol is one of my personal favorites) but back on the topic, whatever works for you man! if sonic production was a science then this site would be a wiki (which at times it seems, in a good way) and not a forum for sharing and discussion... now if it's not working, try something else.
     

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