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Stop bitching the New In flames !

Discussion in 'In Flames' started by Fratt, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Fratt

    Fratt Al ur bases r blong to us

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    Hi all. I started listening to In Flames 3 months ago, and I'm going to see them live in November, in Quebec and just bought their last record. So I thought it was cool, now as a "official" In flames fan, to have access to a whole new community of fans sharing the same passion for In flames. With this idea in mind, I went in the forum ...

    Only people insulting the band, "I want a good laugh I'll listen to ASOP" "They've become a sold-out EMO band" "They don't respect they're good ol' fan !" "They only play commercial stuff to attract their new, younger audiance" or the new fans "New fans suck !!!" "They're are EMO kids !" "They don't even know the lyrics of the good ol' songs !!!" INFAMY !!!

    Of course I don't know the old songs ! I like In flames because of Comes Clarity and ASOP, and even if I love some songs from the older era (Trigger comes to mind), I listened to the old records and didn't like it. I found them good, but not good enough to learn the chorus JUST for the sake of the good ol' fan ...

    In flames changed drastically, we can't avoided. But try to listen ASOP as it is : a new album from a new band, a new style. If you still don't like it, that's your right, Music is a matter of personal taste, but stop bitching the band and their fans so much ! I find ironic that the olds fans are always insulting the band and then asking respect from them ...

    And stop calling In falmes EMO !!! Seriously WTF ?

    This is EMO
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    THIS is EMO
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    But not In flames ! They changed, that's it. It's actually called Innovation, not EMO.
     
  2. Ross

    Ross valfri baguette

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    stardrowned The doctor is in...

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    Shit thread.

    And just to show that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about...

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    Source: http://blogg.aftonbladet.se/25479

    Good luck in finding your way out of the forums.
     
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    Yeah. I thought that was funny.

    Yeah. In Flames isn't emo. I will give you that.

    I still reserve the right to say ASOP blows horse cock. Are you going to post a picture of a horse next?
     
  6. DE4life

    DE4life 'ello treacle

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    Surely a wind up... if not, fail in every possible level imaginable.
     
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    Ross valfri baguette

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    Ross valfri baguette

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    in hereby declare this thread 'fail pictures thread'
     
  9. Fratt

    Fratt Al ur bases r blong to us

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    Wow thx for the warm welcome

    Well, the pre-Soundtrack to your escape era at least.

    It's cool to see that the so-called "In flames forum" is in fact "Let's-bitch-In-flames-for-trying-something-new forum" ... Nice nice

    I tried to explain my point and start a reflexion about this subject, but if you guys don't know how to spell anything else than Failed, well go for it and have fun.

    this forum -> [​IMG]
     
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    They aren't trying anything "new", you viral little cum bubble.
     
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    Jonathan Davis called. He wants his music back.

    (Only song I like on STYE is Evil in a Closet. Yes. Its jon davisy. but thats ok. Because i like some of Davis's stuff, but we shouldnt have a full album of that "stuff" from In Flames)
     
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    Clay-Man Anders pre-2003

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    Wow is that daniel... Wow In Flames is really becoming emo.


    ASOP is shit. The production is so unmetal it's not funny.
    It's like we get Come Clarity and we expect a brother but Come Clarity takes a shit and there you go, it's ASOP.
     
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    Clay-Man Anders pre-2003

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    Yeah what the fuck do you expect?
    In Flames is what got me into more realistic metal. Then I found out they turned into the shit I have been trying to get away from. Like what the fuck is that?
     
  14. Fratt

    Fratt Al ur bases r blong to us

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    That's an interesting point (at least). No, I don't listen to Death Metal. I have nothing against screaming, and I often listen to bands like All that Remains, Killswitch Engage, sometimes Gojira ... But Cannibal Corpse, Behemoth and all of these are clearly not my style.

    But I don't agree whith you on the nu-metal point : First of all I don't listen to Nu-Metal at all, and I don't think In flames became a Nu-Metal Band. Yes the vocals are softer, and the music is more accessible ... but saying that it's only a commercial initiative is another story. Maybe In flames just wanted to get a bit softer, because they felt more like it ? A lot of bands are doing that (Gojira, All that Remains, Manowar, Rammstein ...). You can't force a band to stay in the same fuckin style for his whole existence.
     
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    Clay-Man Anders pre-2003

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    They should be known what they're supposed to be known for, if they want to sing they can sing.

    Good experimenting would be Clayman. More singing, more ballads. But it still carried their old format and their old sound.

    Jester Race doesn't sound completely like Whoracle. Whoracle Doesn't completely sound like Colony. Colony doesn't completely sound like Clayman.
     
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    Clay-Man Anders pre-2003

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    Yeah don't forget Daniel is gay now.
    .....Wow this has honestly killed all my respect for him I swear to god...
     
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    I have the utmost respect for Daniel's drumming capabilities, but as far as I'm concerned, he's a compelete moron. He has blatantly disrespected the band's older albums in a number of interviews, especially The Jester Race, which he didn't even fucking play on.
     
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    Clay-Man Anders pre-2003

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    Yeah I saw a thread that where he was talking about how he doesn't give a shit about the older stuff. Total faggotry.

    When I heard some sacrilage I had more respect but him badmouthing Lunar-Whoracle, and wearing makeup is gay.
     
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    DE4life 'ello treacle

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    Have you read many of the posts here, or just assuming from an assorted few? Opinion here is somewhat divided on albums and taste. Of course there's a larger per-cent of people preferring the older stuff - but that's not a bad thing, because their older stuff is superior musically, if not commercially.


    See, I like ASOP, but I agree it is the least 'metal' of In Flames albums. It still is melodic metal, but the production strays very close to hard rock along with the structures. It makes me worry for In Flames next release.

    Unlike the majority of older fans, I actually like In Flames new as well as their old stuff. The older shit is vastly superior in every aspect, but I don't think the stuff In Flames released after that was bad, it was just no where near the level they had achieved up until Clayman. R2R is a hugely underrated album, and with a better production would have been received better. It's just a shame most of the melodies are buried under that shitty mix. STYE is.... well, it is what it is. I don't hate it but of the In Flames albums it has the least replay value for me, even the heavier songs ("F(r)iend) are fairly lacklustre and Bottled is their shittiest song by far. Come Clarity is an extremely one-dimensional, though catchy, metal album and ASOP is a mellowed out In Flames that is still catchy but losing steam.

    I somewhat agree with this (though as Furious George pointed out, this is being discussed in another thread), though In Flames decision to mellow out and create catchy songs is definately a commercial drive. Not only that - but it's easier for them. Easier songs = moar money and moar faggy fans who'll buy your shit, why wouldn't you? Considering some people labelled Colony and Clayman sellout albums I think any of that shit goes right over their heads by this point.

    I think R2R was on the border of acceptable experimentation for a melodic death metal band, and most people hoped would be as commercial as In Flames got, but of course, that was proved badly wrong by STYE, CC and ASOP. Clayman didn't feature any 'singing', only mumbling, and one "ballad" (S&A), which is still heavy, Reroute is the real experimental album with actual singing, two ballads and a bunch of catchy MTV-friendly tunes.

    I agree with this assessment, however, it's worth noting a lot of metal singers cannot really sing very well. Anders is hardly the only one, especially in the alt. metal genre people like to compare In Flames to. I think the experimentation actually worked fairly well on Reroute, but from STYE onwards has caused a steady decline in the band's creativity.

    You know the Touch of Red video was a parody, right? Not meant to be taken seriously?

    Anyhow, seperate from that, In Flames have certainly changed their image. Contrast the awesomeness of the artwork prior STYE and then the artwork on STYE afterwards (Soundtrack's album art work sucked, CC's was gay, ASOP's is beyond description in the worst way) and you can see a shift towards the utter lame. Obviously it connects with their new pathetic fanbase (not all fans, but most of them - I saw for myself in london) and thus brings them moar monies.

    Shit, really? I haven't seen him rip on the old In Flames albums, but if he has, shame on him. Also, i'm hoping those pics of him being emo are a joke. Else, double shame on him.
     
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    Fratt Al ur bases r blong to us

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    Thanks Furious George and DE4life for their elaborate answers.

    It may be true, but I think it's too easy to accuse a band of commercialism and mainstream turn like this. It happens with many bands : The band release more albums and play more gigs -> they sells more, are getting more popular, increase their fan base -> then some people will AUTOMATICALLY point that their popularity is only due to a commercial move. Of course it's not that simple. Now, maybe In flames are taking a more commercial turn, but remember that teenagers trying to be cool will be attracted by fag Rap music with cool clothes and golden jewelry, and In flames is probably the last place where they might look :). Well this is my opinion.

    Again, it's a pretty easy statement. And again, it's not my opinion ;)

    This a rough sentence ... you might not like them, but at least they're more original than many band's cover (slipknot ? Manowar ? DRAGONFORCE LAWL CYBORG BITCH)
    I personally tought the ASOP cover and booklet was interesting, with the whole idea of the labyrinth and mirror, but I haven't seen the older bookets. Anyway it's more interesting than 10 pages of faggy photo shoots of the band trying to look cool.

    And yes, my respect for Daniel took a HUGE drop at the sight of this pic :D
     

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