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Stop bitching the New In flames !

Discussion in 'In Flames' started by Fratt, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. eochaid

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    Yep, they changed a lot. But there was some continuity. Now they almost left everything that they were behind. Music is not important anymore. They're a band vocal oriented and nearer to alt rock than to metal. That's a big difference I think.

    And yes, he said that in order to upset you specifically. Lol. Now you have the chance to tell him what you want through his Facebook page or in a couple of days in the restaurant.
     
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    And, if you read his comments, he says that he is not judging battles, so it has nothing to do with it being a good or a bad album. Give him a break :p

    (Really, I wonder why people gets so upset when he talks this way about their precious).
     
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    Sorry I don't use Facebook and I don't understand what you're rambling about? Why would I be upset and about what lol? I just said I agreed with ciko that Jesper sounds very salty (which he does) and that what he said makes no sense. And lets be real here, Alternative Metal or Melodic Metal? Yes. Alt Rock? Not really.

    It's like you said, continuity. Don't forget ASOP is 10 years old, 10 years in In Flames lifetime is huge. Compare 1998 to 2008 sound and then 2008 to 2018. More of a radical difference in the first one than the second one.
     
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    Maybe because of this

    Give me a break lol :rofl:. You seem to be taking it too personal. IS there anything that you want to tell us?

    ASOP was still metal and full of riffs, some of which coul've been a part of old IF albums. SOAPF was still metal. Battles is californian alt rock.

    You know what's the impression that you leave (to me)? That you like anything that they do just because they do it. If the two songs released by Cyhra were IF songs you would be saying "I'm cool with it" or something like this.
     
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    How can I take something personal when it's not even directed at me? Maybe you're just trolling. Trust me, if you've been gaming online for over a decade you don't take anything personal or get offended about anything unless you're an SJW. Seen it all and heard it all already. Maybe it's cause you don't understand the English language super well and you misinterpret stuff, I don't know.

    Who said I like anything because they just do it? I never said I loved Battles. I don't even listen to any songs from Battles regularly. Cyhra I don't really like cause I think the vocals are generic vocals. It's the type of ''good'' clean vocals you've heard a hundred times already and it bores me in a second. That combined with the gang vocals chorus, no thanks. It's catchy yes, but it's old after a few listens, low replay value.

    Also I haven't heard the term Californian Alt Rock, now I know. I guess it's slang in Spain for Alternative Metal. I also liked how you name SOAPF then leave out Siren Charms which of course makes the leap in their sound sound bigger when you jump 2 albums.
     
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    Of course I am. And you're still too serious.

    Getting personal again? Maybe it's because you don't understand the english language super well so that you don't express your thoughts correctly.


    Love... like... There are different things. I like you but I don't love you.

    Totally different from Anders... oh, wait! Forget just what I wrote.

    Nope, it's mine. I mean, Alice in CHains are alt rock but they do not sound like some californian teenagers going surfing. In FLames do.

    "I also liked how you name SOAPF then leave out Siren Charms which of course makes the leap in their sound sound bigger when you jump 2 albums."

    Because SC is hard to define. It's not Pop. It's not alt rock but it doesn't also sound metal. The change is bigger with Battles.
     
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    With generic I meant he has that typical power metal vocals. Love it or hate it, but Anders does have unique vocals both clean and screams, I haven't really heard anyone that sounds like him. You're also reading way to much into words, just because I like to write in a correct manner doesn't mean I'm overly serious. I already know you're trolling, you can't troll a troll. You're just reaching at the moment =)

    Also SC not being metal? If you aren't trolling then you are just plain wrong. I mean sure the title track isn't metal but the album as a whole definitely is.
     
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    I'd love to see you trolling. That would be refreshing. :p

    I understand what you mean about anders but, frankly speaking, I don't care anymore. Anders has a unique voice but has become a boring songwriter. I prefer singers with something to say, even if they do have generic voices. And it's even better if they're able to sing. I'm still skeptic about Jake e, by the way.
     
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    I usually troll or trashtalk related to when I'm gaming, it's a part of the culture.
    Also I wouldn't really call Anders a songwriter since he doesn't actually write the structure or basics of the songs at all. Collaborator at best.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Good. Now I really love you.:rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  11. A88

    A88 Bottled - really not the worst IF song ever.

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    Jesper is right.

    1) In Flames should change name. It's not the same band.
    2) ASOP has some great material: some of the best drumming in IF discography, bunch of great riffs, melodies, acoustics... But, it's annoying a lot of people (myself included) because of shit vocals, idiotic lyrics and bad guitar sound/production which continues to plague IF since they started to play on Anders and choruses.
     
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    I actually think SOAPF has one of their best productions of all their albums. Worst ones probably ASOP/R2R/Battles in no special order.
     
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    I think battles have a better production than SC. R2R proves that even with a shitty production songs can be good. SOAPF's is very good.

    In order it would be SC<ASOP<R2r<Battles
     
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    R2R with a non-muddy production would be insanely good. But I get why it sounds the way it does. They wanted to change it up, they were tired of the Fredman sound. It's weird though because Daniel Bergstrand's previous work and the work after R2R is really well produced. I guess it was more In Flames than his decision. Although you can't really call R2R bad-produced if it's the way the intended it to sound. It's definitely not shit it just lacks some crunch and clarity on the guitars and vocals. I really think the drum sounds great though. But you can hear they wanted it that way like on the System verses with the heavy reverb on the vocals. But we also have to remember R2R is from 2001/2002 and it's not as modern sounding as Come Clarity for example. Because you can clearly hear the similarities with STYE and Soilwork's Stabbing the Drama which Daniel both produced, they have a really similar guitar and drum sound.

    Even his Strapping Young Lad - City album from 1997 has much clearer sound than R2R so I defnitely think it's more of a case of intention rather than bad producing.
     
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    Sounds has probably the best production in any of the post-clayman albums.
    It's very clear sounding, and tonally sounds amazing and massive.

    Reminds me of a combination of Colony and Clayman's production.
     
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    DE4life 'ello treacle

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    SOAPF was the best production they'd had since Clayman imo. It worked very well for their less aggressive modern approach.

    Then they fucked it all up with Siren Charms, which by the sounds of it was produced in a shed on an old PC using Windows 95 and Sound Recorder.
     
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    A88 Bottled - really not the worst IF song ever.

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    SOAPF had only one problem. Thin guitars low in the mix. It gave them more clarity, but it just didn't have enough gain for metal. But yeah, best production since Clayman.
     
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    I thought they were tonally pretty well.

    A problem I find with a lot of modern mixing/mastering today is that people like to cut a lot of frequencies. It works great in a lot of places, but sometimes it sounds too obvious, and kind of thins out the whole tone of the guitars to make room for other instruments.

    It's why I like Colony a lot because it didn't sacrifice so much and made it sound massive, but the leads could have been a tad bit louder.
    I guess that's what Clayman addressed, but part of me feels like Clayman is just SLIGHTLY, just slightly overproduced.
     
  19. Cadaver The Great

    Cadaver The Great Jesterhead, Nice Guy

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    This thread aged well
     
  20. DE4life

    DE4life 'ello treacle

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    Indeed, although it's time to post an updated version of the OP...
     

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