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The Books/Reading Thread

Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Matt, May 16, 2007.

  1. Master_Yoda77

    Master_Yoda77 Juggalo

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    Erikson is the only fantasy author that has left me confused and wondering with an ending. He's so good. I'm about 100 pages into the 2nd book "Deadhouse Gates" and I have no fucking clue what is up. He's great. lol
     
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    I'm about 200 pages in and I can't put it down. Every chapter is a new scene featuring characters caught in some kind of chaos. I'm definitely a bit confused on some points but I'm a sucker for deep, complex plot. Definitely seems like it's going to warrant a second read.
     
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    So Kafka lovers... Did you actually enjoy The Castle?
    I couldn't believe that it's one of his "best works" after I've finished the book.
     
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    Zephyrus Tyrants and Slaves

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    Good to see you're still alive while your country's on fire.
     
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    Can't agree more, Zeph. Thank you.
     
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    If you don't like The Castle, then I doubt you'll enjoy any Kafka. :cool:
     
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    That's the thing, I loved Metamorphosis, read it like 3 times. Then a few more of short stories. But then The Castle... and was like - what? I didn't think it was bad, but definitely not one of his "best works"...
     
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    I've only read The Trial and didn't enjoy it.
     
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    "The Desire Machine" by Strugatsky brothers.
    Pretty much the book that inspired Tarkovsky to film Stalker. Really great piece of work.
     
  10. Einherjar86

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    Huh, interesting. The Metamorphosis is some crazy shit. I'm actually interested in the representation/deployment of insect imagery in Western literature. It has an interesting history.

    Yes, but you're not a modernist scholar. :cool:

    Very cool; I love that film.

    I'm re-reading this since I'm teaching it to my students next week:

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    Oh? I have an interest in entomology, and when they mix it with symbolism - it's even better. You think you could recommend me any other thing to read with particular topic?
     
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    "The Seven Basic Plots: Why We Tell Stories" by
    Christopher Booker.
     
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    Naked Lunch!
     
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    To go a bit further back into the nineteenth century, Edgar Allan Poe has a splendid little short story called "The Sphinx" that you might find of interest.

    Later on, of course, there's Stoker's Dracula. The character Renfield ingests insects in hopes of altering his being (consumption => metamorphosis => Kafka). There's also something insect-like, bat-like, and reptilian about Dracula himself.

    Philip K. Dick has some very explicit references to insects in his short stories from the fifties, specifically "The Father-Thing" (in which metallic insect-like creatures masquerade as humans) and "The Hanging Stranger" (which features insect-like things from an alternative dimension; they even have "stingers" :cool:).

    More recently, China Miéville employs insect imagery for several of the characters in his Bas-Lag trilogy (there's a certain race of beings that have human bodies and insect heads, with "mandibles," as I recall).

    I'm mostly interested in insect imagery as it relates to a culturally normative sense of animal hierarchy. When we anthropomorphize dogs, for instance, we tend to see them positively, or as figures of "good"; insects, on the other hand, often exude malice and conjure up dread in characters. Their relationship to our concept of "the other" is very interesting.
     
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    We generally have a tendency to positively anthropomorphize other mammals, or non-carrion feasting birds. Insects are so foreign. Ants might be the only exception due to their social organization.
     
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    True, but their appearance in literary texts rarely manifests so simply. Insects enjoy an extraordinarily complex and conflicting representational history in literature. The insect is, in my opinion, a nexus for a large and varied network of cultural terrors and anxieties.
     
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    Dracula... Frankenstein, Dr Jekyll, The Fly.... And next thing you know we're going to start naming Harry Potter too?! You should go for Werber's Empire of the Ants. Now that is a real interesting book that contains analogies between insects and humans.
     
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    Clearly someone prefers the obvious to the obscure.
     
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    There's nothing obvious really into Werber's work, but it sure tops for me every single crappy horror books that metal people are always all over about yeah...
     

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