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Discussion in 'Production' started by jman1986, Mar 13, 2011.
Just about what kool98769 said, wasn't the last KSE's album produced by Brendan O'Brien?
I just want to address how ridiculous this statement is. So now amps can be considered cookie cutter? I guess we should all invest in 2k and 3k amps that will end up doing the exact same thing a 5150 could do for $500 just to not be cookie cutter. Stupid statement is stupid. Sorry dude.
...Or we should all go and get a POD and have overly harsh and incredibly fizzy tones that sound sooooo stale.
5150 Fo da Win.
It was Joeys dream to work w Adam, maybe they were both looking to other to pull it together, but I agree Id rather seem them just go back to the foundation.
I seriously hope this isn't the final mix. guitars are like 6 db's too loud with lowmids OUT OF CONTROL, my speakers overloaded during palm mutes, snare has barely any crack and no decay, DEAD and on top of everything, clean vocals dissapear, kick sounds clippy, OVERHEADS? WHAT DO YOU MEAN OVERHEADS? oh, you mean that dull midrangey thing over there in far away town? this doesn't suit their music at all, it lacks production elements. the Zombie EP was their jump according to me, everything before that still sucks to my ears, and now they're back there again. tragic. and everything is POORLY arranged, like the clean vocals for example, they just are there, vocal harmonies don't vary at all. boring, stale.
i dont like the mix. i want to say that i think a lot of the programming / keys that i did for this cd are AWESOME AS FUCK but turned down so low that no one will even know i was involved. if only i could show you what it sounded like before it got turned down.
thankfully there are a few parts where adam let the keys / programming shine. but a lot of the stuff IMHO got shut out.
-10 points to Adam
For future reference: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/692408-devil-wears-prada-born-lose.html
Pretty sure it is the final mix... This is track 8 of 13 according to the MP3's ID3 tags that were on that Alt Press website.
Same here. I don't mind organic or digital sounds. Joey's TDWP mixes sounds awesome and so does this song IMO. Each producer has their own thing. I think this song is awesome and TDWP has never failed to surprise me with song writing.
Did they record this album at Black Lodge Studios in Eudora, KS? I know the video update said they would be in the Lawrence area recording their album, and the only studio I could think of around there was the one the Get Up Kids recorded at a bunch, which is Black Lodge.
where did this come from? haha
I somehow missed this too
zombies ep was my guitar tone. brian hood did the quantizing of the drum tracks (for zombies ep)
aka the "MORE ME" syndrome. Now you know how it feels
This message is mainly just so that I could bump and combine the two threads ("Recording With Prada" and this)
Yeah the statement was not that thought out haha. (but afaik cookie cutter is not a bad term, it just something that alot of people tend to resort to setting and sound-wise)
But with that being said the point you got from it was not what I intended.. its just that I personaly dont think that using the peavey 5150+sm57+MesaCab combo suddenly makes a mix more "real".
I mean I love the 5150+sm57+mesa combo, but its rarely I hear people pulling "new" tones from it, so I dont see why people bitch about the pod tones sounding the same.
Yes it is. As is "thirteen in a dozen".
cook·ie-cut·ter [kook-ee-kuht-er] adjective
1. having the same configuration or look as many others of a given kind; identical: rows of cookie-cutter houses.
2. lacking individuality; stereotyped or formulaic: a novel filled with cookie-cutter characters.
1. The term cookie cutter is used to describe anything that is mass produced quickly and of low quality. See cheezy.
2. Predictable, Recycled, Not unique.
"Cookie cutter," when used as an adjective, is defined as a "lack of originality or distinction", a reference to the uniformity that results from the use of a cookie cutter. An example might be a reference to a suburban subdivision's housing, all looking pretty much alike, as "cookie cutter homes".
Originally, a utensil for cutting shaped pieces out of dough. More recently, characterising a lack of originality.
No its not.
Oh well this seems like your style to go in and try to be a smartass by quoting some link .
Only one that is negative is the urbandictionary one (trust worthy source !).
The rest is describing just what I said "lacking individuality; stereotyped or formulaic".
Don't take it the wrong way, im not bashing anyone.. As I said I love the sound of putting a sm57 infront of a mesa cab with a 5150, but I don't find it that unique (the same thing lasse was hinting towards here http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/equipment/703323-no-sm57-mesa-tones-stop-limiting-yourselves.html).. so I thinks its kinda funny when people is bashing pod for sounding the same (but dont take my statement I made before too seriously) .
IDK about the rest of you, but in the states when someone says 'cookie cutter' they are more often than not, saying it with a negative connotation...
Adam's mix grew on me. I like it for what it is but it's SO far removed to what Joey's mixes sound like, it's almost frightening!
no one's ever heard Prada with someone else besides Joey at the helm before now and I must say, it's a shocker for sure.
yeah i dont mind the mix. it isnt as clear as zombie ep by far, otherwise i think it's pretty decent