apart from the command, and our entire design consistent with that command. We would be supposing 'chocolate wouldn't taste good if God had told us chocolate shant taste good, though our tastebuds remain the same. and he could have created a world where that was indeed such a good thing (he could have invented a world where you would love to be gangraped by black convicts, that doesn't mean it's arbitrary in context to the world as it is, you as he has made you, that rape is wrong, and sodomy is a sin. and no more reason to design the world where murder is a sin than the world where murder isn't a sin, but in the world where murder is bad rather than good, where people are so designed as to not want to be murdered, it isn't arbitrary which way his command goes, for it's merely sticking to logic to follow with a command against murder unto creatures which don't like being murdered. what would be nonsense would be god creating life to be good and commanding us to die, his goodness is in giving us an idea of the goo,d and commanding us to do what is good for us as a parent does. and if there is no God, what could it mean to say that nature conveys to us what is good? if 'z is good' simply means 'nature makes z seem good', then 'the natural revelation of good' would mean only that 'natural revelation of good is just the good that is revealed by nature. I guess that means what smells like shit to us is arbitrarily bad, it may as well smell like dinner as it does to a worm or a maggot... our perception of good and bad is arbitrary but for our being so composed that unto us it is good or bad.