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Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by UltimateApathy, Aug 3, 2017.
Okay, captain argumentum ad hominem.
And just so you know, kid, I officially have residential status in the country I live in.
And just so you know, son, argumentum ad hominem is a fallacy.
You mean just like your little fallacy-based belief that immigrants ruin countries, son?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, you fucking retard. Stop pushing your black-and-white leftist propaganda.
You're right, Northern Europe is simply flowering right now. No negative effects related to mass immigration whatsoever.
Must by why Japan is just opening its borders to everybody, right?
Japan is the only country in the world where people speak Japanese, and due to the language barrier (the English aptitude of Japanese people is one of the worst in the world) people basically can't live there unless they speak the language or teach English. Foreign teachers can marry locals and become citizens, but because of Japan's ultra-conservative culture this is relatively rare. It's not so much that Japan won't let foreign people in, it's mainly that foreign people can't easily live there and therefore don't want to.
And where is your evidence of Northern Europe descending into utter chaos other than a few anecdotal stories and very sparsely scattered news reports? You are touting a fear-mongering bigoted fallacy here, kid.
Sounds like an awesome place. Others should follow suit.
So you were talking about the crime of smuggling, but illegal immigration doesn't apply to any other kind of crime?
Strong borders = tight control over who brings what in. That's all I was saying.
You also said that immigrants (note: not illegal immigrants, just regular legal immigrants) ruin countries. Hell, the USA was fucking built by immigrants, and it's currently the most powerful country in the world (although admittedly it probably won't stay that way if the Orange Clown stays in power for long).
I didn't say that immigrants ruin countries. I said that countries with strict immigration policy (and in hindsight, also countries with strict asylum-seeker and refugee intake policy) seem to think they do, in some way, bring more cons than pros.
If they didn't think this, why wouldn't they Angela Merkelize their borders? I'm not a close the borders person at all, I'm basically perfectly happy with the balance struck by Australian policy. I just think it's funny that all these places you hold up as the best places seem to have very strict immigration policy and are also quite conservative, with exception to Singapore of course.
Japan has a less than 1% rate of taking in asylum seekers, whereas Germany is upward of 40%. Why is this?
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strict immigration policy is one of the main reasons your precious Asian utopias are the way they are to begin with.
Those were your exact words, son, so I guess you admit that you either misspoke or were mistaken.
As Asia trends towards liberal democracy, they'll open their borders more and more for people who aren't just impermanent foreign workers, but denying that many Asian countries are conservative when it comes to immigration seems ridiculous to me.
Conservative fundamentally means to conserve something and it's quite clear these places for the time being aim to conserve something which they think immigration (especially non-Asian immigration) will negatively impact.
So you're still sticking to your statement that immigrants ruin countries?
So you still have nothing to actually rebut anything I've said? Vapid twat.
You still haven't explained to me how you can hold to your belief that immigrants ruin countries when the most powerful country in the world was built by immigrants. Your mindless retardation has me in two minds, son: I'm not sure whether to pity you or laugh at you.