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The Great Pyramid of Giza

Discussion in 'Bar' started by Plendakor, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Genius Gone Insane

    Genius Gone Insane http://www.¯\(°_o)/¯.com

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    I think it's pretty interesting that multiple ancient peoples from different areas of the globe built pyramids.

    Not to go OT, but this fascinates me more:
    [​IMG]

    ^^To me, this is the most otherworldly thing on earth.
     
  2. LeSedna

    LeSedna Mat or Mateo

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    - I would be happy to bet than in 20k years there would be way more than you would guess
    - So you would throw away the shit tons of history studying, where it's clearly written than X ordered the construction of Y pyramid, not to mention carbon datation (we're not gonna enter this debate again, are we ?) on mummies, etc etc. Why would you call aliens again where there is no need to call any ?
    - If someone was as egocentric and powerful as a god-empowered pharaon, we would. Y'know, build a machine to cut rock with diamond, use trucks to move them, and machines to assemble them, all that in a few years maximum, without killing hundreds of thousands of slaves. I don't say we would do better with the same technology available, that's another story. But saying we wouldn't do better is just giving them too much credit. We're talking rocks and geometry here. We've done enough in 4000 years (in the last 50 actually) to be better at cutting not-so-hard objects and aligning them.
    - You said it, coincidence. I recall it has even been proven by some mathematican that you can just find any number anywhere, if you try hard enough, depending on the number of variables. After a very little number of variables, you have enough combinations possible to statistically expect being able to approach any given number with divisions/additions/substractions/multiplications. I don't say they didn't know the number Pi since I have no idea about mathematics history, I just say you have to be careful with these asumptions you find all the magical numbers in the world in the pyramids. You have to think about it this way : in the world there are many many many things, and if you think about all the combinations, it's an infinite number of possiblities. Surely, in all of those, you can find something that suits what you are searching for. So if you take a pyramid, with galeries, stars, angles, weight, areas, orientations, and combine them in many ways, you will end up finding something close enough to Pi to think this is a great discover.
    Now, if there has been laser measurements of the pyramid length (including the missing angle-cut rocks that once were there to the ground), and that its height is 3.1415927 times its base measure (or whatever value they thought was Pi at their time), to the 1/100 or 1/1000 of unit, the precision would be good enough to say they did it on purpose. Also, I'd like to say there wouldn't be any interest in doing so. Aligning with stars, yes, their religion made them think a pyramid is a vessel to the afterlife and is built towards the sky, the stars, the gods. So the north/south alignment makes sense. While Pi number as interesting as it is, has no real value for them as far as I know... ? Also, I think none of the pyramids have the same angles and proportions, so if you find Pi in one of them, the others won't have it, which wouldn't make sense.

    This is the first result I got from google and which sums up my point of view on the subject of Pi and pyramids http://www.jimloy.com/pseudo/pyramid.htm .

    About the Phi number... By definition, it is the most natural proportion that makes something "beautiful" to the eyes of a human being. So when some egyptian engineer tries to build a beautiful pyramid, he wouldn't need to consciously use the Phi number for proportions to do so, but some 21st century illuminated autoproclamed pyramidologue would find it everywhere. In fact you can find it in your screen ratios, body ratios, your favourite boob size, etc. So this wouldn't be a surprise you can approach the phi number in the pyramid's proportions, and I'm happy to bet you would not accurately approach its number. Also, the concept of Phi is very recent compared to human history, nor the concept of series mathematics, and as good as the egyptians were, I doubt they even thought about something like that by then
    - yes stop talking about my cock, wether it is in Pi or Phi units
     
  3. ATLA

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    I'm more interested in who built the sphynx as it has been scientifically proven to be much older. Also maybe you engineering guys can chime in on how Egyptians lifted 1200 ton stones 60 ft in the air and placed them perfectly? That's something we still have a hard time doing today. There's a lot of BS were taught about the pyramids. Such as they used copper tools to cut the granite slabs perfectly. From what I can tell copper is too soft to do it.
     
  4. Skinny Viking

    Skinny Viking ¯\(°_o)/¯ How do Lydian?

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    it sure as shit ain't in meters
     
  5. egan.

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    I throw shit away everyday that will be here in 20000 years.

    Generally I agree with 006. The accomplishments of ancient civilizations are amazing. We don't need to sensationalize them to appreciate that.
     
  6. LeSedna

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    False, or only if you round up values to suit your own beliefs. The cubits have different values depending on which one you use. For example, it's not the one google uses as a conversion to cm.

    "take my penis length. multiply it by its circomference, substract your gf's ass size, make it power the-number-of-pubic-hair-I-have, and tadaaaa you find the speed of light"

    You should even laugh at that yourself, for the concept of meter is only a definition we decided to agree upon... which is derived from the speed of light itself. By definition, they couldn't know it already and that would have nothing to do with being advanced or not. It's like arranging hieroglyphs together and saying "look they knew modern english already" for it is impossible. Since they used 440 cubits as their base length, there is no way it was arranged to arrive at the number for the speed of light we use today... in meters, defined recently only. If you read the meter history, you will see it has had many definitions, with different numbers, and the speed of light was always redefined as well.

    As much as I would love that the pyramids are some kind of tremendous etalon building for the upcoming generations, it's still not convincing enough
     
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    When you say scientifically proven, better post a source.

    It's scientifically proven that not posting a source means it's probably not scientifically proven.
     
  8. LeSedna

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    Pyramids are the simplest way to assemble the simplest units of buildings together, with no need for engineering skills at all since it's stable by nature. It's also made of triangles, easiest figure after the square to create. I don't find it surprising that there has been numerous pyramids all over the globe for this reason.

    If there were say, a specific pattern that just cannot be made by accident (say a W shape) in pyramid's rooms plans, and these would be found all over the globe, then yes, they would probably be related.

    I agree those drawings are fascinating and I'd love to know what they were doing with those, exactly.

    Just please don't call those UFO-landstrips
     
  9. Skinny Viking

    Skinny Viking ¯\(°_o)/¯ How do Lydian?

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    UFO RUNWAYS
     
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    We have a hard time doing it today because no fucking one does this today. At a time when every engineer had to think about how to lift stones in the air, during centuries, they probably took time (centuries) to think about it, and all it needs is one genius to find the best way to do it and tell the other guys. Maybe people didn't find it yet, maybe we underestimate the man-power that was in place by then (you know, slaves who obey a god-like figure of power) etc. Before someone proves they had hitech tools no one found anywhere, I think it's exagerated to assume they didn't do it with some kind of ingenious-yet-simple-system
     
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    LeSedna Mat or Mateo

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    Skinny Viking... my balls in your hair :D
     
  12. Notuern

    Notuern Bloody vaginal belch

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    Well, you have to consider that it was a measurement roughly based on the distance between your elbow and the tip of your middle finger.
    So you cant really say that its 52.3cm at all, its just the length of the smallest cubit rod found in ancient Egypt.

    The way a metre was defined is according to wiki and other sources: "1⁄10,000,000 part of the quarter of a meridian"
    So probably.. no, its extremely unlikely(Unless it was made "by chance".). ;P
     
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    This whole thread reminds me of a time the hippy explained to me that our 60hz electrical system was poisoning us because 60 is roughly the atomic weight of nickel so our power lines were giving us nickel poisoning.
    If you compare incompatible scales of measure you can come up with all sorts of meaningless information that will wow the uniformed.
     
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    Notuern Bloody vaginal belch

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    The only stones i have found quoted to be in this size you are mentioning have been in Baalbek.
    So all i have to say:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_the_South#Second_monolith
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalbek#Moving_the_stones

    As for the pyramids, there are numerous explanations as to how they have moved these stones.. this is what i consider one of the most plausible ones:

    [​IMG]
     
  15. SocialNumb

    SocialNumb Damn Christians!

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    This shit can be done today and quick, if the resources where available. The fucking things aren't practical. They suck.

    Fuck those hell holes, I want AC. :lol:
     
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    Has anyone heard of Coral Castle near Miami, FL? I visited it in '04 and it is a fascinating place. If a 100 lb., 5 ft tall man could carve and move blocks of coral weighing several tons each by himself, then thousands of Egyptian slaves could build the pyramids without any problem. Question is, how the fuck did he do it? When asked how he did it he replied, "It's not difficult if you know how."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle
     
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    Skinny Viking ¯\(°_o)/¯ How do Lydian?

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    We've been to space numerous times (including a space station) and we can't build a stupid pyramid out of rocks?

    therefore aliens.:loco:
     
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    Notuern Bloody vaginal belch

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    http://www.templeofsolomon.org/pyramid.htg/Great.Pyramid.htm

    If you want to you can see a relation between anything using made up mathematical formulas.
    These formulas are mere after creations designed specifically to get the result the individual want, its all in your head.

    You could probably count the number of blocks there are in the pyramid and divide it by the average amount of penises an Egyptian woman can fit in her mouth and get some number that could be interpreted as correlating to the speed of light as well.

    Edit:

    And again, cubit is NOT an exact measurement.. it never has been and never will be.
    This is a cubit:

    [​IMG]

    If you are to do this math properly, at least follow standards.. which would mean that a cubit is 45.72cm(The average distance from a human beings elbow -> tip of the middle finger.).
     
  20. JakeAC5253

    JakeAC5253 Frozen Sun Audio

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    I know these threads can get pretty intense, and I'm not trying to start anything, but personally, this video made me think about a lot of things. I think that's what it's meant to do, make you think.



    It's quite long, and just about everything gets wrapped up by the end except for a few things that even the presenter tells you are sketchy. So if you only watch 10-15 minutes of it, don't even bother commenting. Even with that said, the first time I watched it I was borderline laughing for the first 20 minutes or so... keep watching.
     
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