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The Official Good Television Thread

Discussion in 'GMD Social Forum' started by Satanstoenail, May 10, 2008.

  1. no country for old wainds

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    i get the impression we’re generally on the same page with slice of life kinda stuff. but yeah i loved how it sets up all these characters to be running jokes and then gradually gets you caring about them. the postman’s date with the hooker in S2 is a good example of that kind of payoff. the gervais character is a lot more genuine and shaded than i expected too, it’s actually painful watching his emotional highs and lows lol

    i actually assumed it had ended but apparently season 3 is coming soon and expected to be the final season.
     
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    So the missus has gotten into that "the handmaids tale"

    Lets be clear from the start, the the very idea of a world where women are treated as depicted by the show is fuckin awful, what's worse is that the treatment of the women isn't exactly a million miles away from what some women (past and present) may well have experienced, and neither are the misogynistic views held by some of the men in the show.

    I initially had sympathy for the main character, and still do to some degree, and in the beginning had some sympathy for the commmanders wife (having to sit there and watch your husband do the deed with another women because you cant conceive seems incredibly cruel) HOWEVER I started to think of the wife as less of a victim as her treatment of the handmaid got more aggressive and not so much the behaviour of someone who has no choice. As for the main character, yes, she is stuck in the awful situation, yes, to a degree she has little, if no choice..but then her history with how she met her husband, her willingly carrying on with the driver after discovering the husbands still alive, oh and the fact that she willingly carried on with secret visits with the commander AND the driver, admitting that she did it because she liked it, just negated some of that victim I.D. for me.

    I get that the portayal of sex in this,is purposefully awkward and uncomfortable to watch, and it does that incredibly well...but does it need to be every second scene?
    I don't know, maybe I'm not getting it, maybe I am...what I do know is we watched season 1, the missus cant wait to start the next season, and me...well iv got more time for my hobby, woodwork.
     
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    they really should have just went with Tom Hopper
     
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    It goes downhill in s2 anyhow.
     
  5. CiG

    CiG So Long Suckers!

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    For sure man. It was pretty refreshing how the show took 2 dimensional tropes and built them into 3 dimensional characters. The whole bittersweet aesthetic of the show is my kinda thing tbh. Shoehorning the hot button topics does make me cringe though, but I guess that's to be expected since that's Gervais' stand-up material for the most part.

    There were so many moments that genuinely hit me in the feels, which I wasn't really expecting haha. Glad to hear that the third season will likely be the final one though, things like this are best as short series.
     
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    Lol I remember that much about wesker. Sounding like a 15 year old white kid who's never left the basement with this take. Idk man, show isn't even based off the first game it sounds
    after that shit take you had on promising young woman, not sure you're in the right vein on what kind of depth there are to feminist media

    :lol: that's literally the entire point of the show. White vs black and how it's.manifested differently based off racist policies
     
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    the problem with "the handmaid's tale" is it really should have been a movie instead of a show

    the first scene is the pregnant one finding out that she really is for sure pregnant
    the last scene is her giving birth
    with political upheaval happening during the pregnancy
     
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    Right. I guess season 2 with the dock workers never happened. Or season 5 with the journalists.

    Bubbles trying to get off the gear was just about race. Police corruption and stat manipulation was just about race. McNulty and his custody issues was all white vs black. Underfunding of the education system... the whole prohibition vs regulation debate in season 3... I could go on...
     
  9. CiG

    CiG So Long Suckers!

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    Giga-brain response. You really have devolved into a Blurry-tier poster mate.
     
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    that's what season 2 demonstrated! White boys doing the same thing as the black boys. I have some issues with the show on my last viewings...but that's the point. Shows how a community can descend into profitable crime

    And season 5, the journalists were pretty small part of the finale. Simon stroking himself on that, I think. But the schools, politics and how McNulty could get away with everything as some argue...but I wouldn't really call s5 a pivotal season to the show.

    Showing the perspective as a junkie , and his climb out, as probably the most positive racial aspect of the show. Long has the black junkie been dehumanized, and part of the large argument as to why white opioid junkies get attention... if these neighborhoods were white, would this be happening? (We hear it with Chicago all the time )

    McNulty custody issues are super small part of the show...but his privilege as an officer is something that can be explored racially from his drunkenness to his antics during work hours. Big difference between bunk and him
     
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    I don'r know how real these shows are but I like Ghost Adventures. They still get me to jump every now and then.
     
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    So how is that "White vs black and how it's.manifested differently based off racist policies"?

    Schools were season 4. Simon himself describes the show as principally being about the failure of institutions, and he shifts the focus to a different one each season. It must be pretty miserable to watch one of the most thematically rich shows ever made and reduce it to "it's all about race"?

    This sounds like a bizarrely strained SJW analysis of the show (and I hate that term for the record). Bubbles' recovery can't just be about overcoming addiction - it has to be viewed through a racial lens? I don't recall McNulty getting any privileged treatment - in fact his superiors both white and black repeatedly go to great lengths to bust him down to beat cop and harbour police roles.
     
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    race is definitely running through the veins of the show more or less all the time, but suggesting it’s exclusively about that is very strained and reductive yeah.
     
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    the show cares about three things: law, politics and schools. all are failing, systematically. why are they failing? misused resources. why are the resources being misused? strong argument that it's from racial policies.incompetence and racial bias aren't as far apart as I think you'd be arguing. and last of all, the show attempts to humanize black crime in these urban areas. why does Simon care about this so much? Because he knows how that subset of american life has been racialized into one specific stereotype. A response to the (mostly) white opiods vs. black crack is part of this.

    the docks, running large scale laundering, has the measly attention of Beatty versus the neighborhood where cousin lives sees a Carver-type and his screw bumping skulls daily.

    I wasn't saying those things were all season 5. What institution failed the white dock workers? Modernization? :lol: :lol: :lol:

    IDK man, you might be worried about taking that next step in the thinking process. Asking why all the things in the show fail leads you to ask why did black people in Baltimore fail? And that answer is largely black.

    Honestly the counter argument to humanizing a black junkie being SJW just seems like you're totally unaware of this stereotype in our country, if not abroad. A white junkie has a past, a black junkie is a drain on the system. This isn't SJW, it's quite easy to depict.

    Why are you so scared to admit that Bubbles' arc is racial?
    What was McNulty's reprocussions for kidnapping the junkie? Being an absent father to his kids? Being a drunk on and off duty? Ah, nothing.

    But his reprocussions for jumping the chain of command? Sent to boat duty.

    For faking murders? Can no longer being an investigative cop. Give me a fucking break :lol: Fucking Prez cold clocked a kid and killed a cop and he becomes a teacher. :lol: :lol: Cops could do no wrong in the show, and the worst ones were white. Herc? Beating the fuck outta people got him a sweet security gig.
     
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    Krigloch the Furious Pants full of poo

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    the Resident Evil anime on Netflix was cool. Only 4 episodes though
    Been watching Demon Slayer on Netflix also, good shit!
    and Bad Batch on Disney+ has been damn awesome. So glad Star Wars is back.
     
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    CiG So Long Suckers!

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    “Dead Ringers”: Poppy Liu Joins the Cast of Amazon Series Based on David Cronenberg’s Horror Movie.
     
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    Found many interestind recommendations here. Thanks. Here are mine - The wire, Entourage, Breaking bad, GoT, The Sopranos, The Gueens Gambit. There are also many interesting content outside usual Netflix/HBO/Disney+. Here is one of sources I use and you can check it out - https://www.firesticktricks.com/stremium.html. I can watch live TV, search for TV series, and view upcoming episodes.
     
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    CiG So Long Suckers!

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    Recently noticed that Stan finally added the second season of Mystery Road so I've been watching that and nothing else really. I'm not sure how available the series is outside of Australia but it's a shame it hasn't seemed to catch on. Like most Australian stuff it's probably too local to translate and this show especially, since it takes place in rural towns steeped in outback lingo and within that there's even a lot of aboriginal lingo, is probably held back by it.

    Still, anybody who likes the idea of a rural Australian take on the True Detective aesthetic (don't take this too literally, it's not as good/abstract as that show) with the brooding music and grizzly details, rife with rich subtext, should give this series a go. Aaron Pedersen is so watchable I swear. So far the second season is dipping its toes into subjects like neocolonialism and how western archaeology exploits indigenous land owners. Pretty interesting thing to explore alongside the main police procedural genre elements.
     
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    Yeah I agree with that assessment. The movie (of the same name) and Goldstone were also just as watchable.
    Aaron plays a good role as do so many the supporting cast.
    Not sure about the up coming series 3 given that it will be a prequel without Aaron in it.
     
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