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The what's going on in Thrash thread

Discussion in 'Testament' started by one man, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. redfly

    redfly Ruled By The Riff

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    I don't give a shit about radio band fans and what is popular. I'm talking about Metal Church's peers showing some respect/recognition to one of their own.
     
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    Yeah the conversation wasn't about who is more popular it was about the reaction or lack there of, from particular people.
     
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    redfly Ruled By The Riff

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    The volume seems a little low but it's not too bad. Band is tight.

     
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    Putting that on the list for "ron"

    Having watched a few of the videos from 70000K it seems like the indoor shows are the worst with the sound..
     
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    Ok I must be dense. Lol. ron?

    Yeah I think you're about that. The outdoor ones do seem to sound better on a regular basis. I wonder what time their set was at? Probably like 4am lol.
     
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    My mate Ron. full name LateRon :p

    Some of the outdoor gigs were fucking breezy too, (which surprises me so much on a boat in the open ocean :) ) and I was really surprised the Testament one didn't sound worse. I'm sure there was the odd time even Chuck had to hang on to something!

    From memory, Doro's tribute to Mike on the day, was him and her on stage on a 70,000K.
     
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    Now with all that being said,what I would like to see is a proper tribute from past and current members of Metal Church to honor him.That’s not too much to ask is it?!!!
     
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    I know, but it's not about who YOU and I think are significant.

    It's about who THEY might think are significant enough to send condolences.

    I think it's clear that these metal musicians are more likely send them out when the associated band is really large or:
    1. They are friends with them/have toured with them in the past
    2. They really like their music and/or were influenced by them

    2nd era MC doesn't fit the bill for these.

    In short, they don't think MC is their peer or "one of their own" as they made it much further than MC did and don't send out condolences to far less known bands (except with the rare exception of Exodus/Nasty Savage for the odd drummer/cancer connection).

    It is odd that musicians that toured with MC at the time (Judas Priest, Alice Cooper) have said nothing. Jason McMaster from Dangerous Toys did though, which makes sense.

    I could make a giant list of metal musicians who died who got no shout-out from any of the bands mentioned here.

    Come to think of it, I remember very little being said when David Wayne died, even from the remaining members of MC themselves or all the bands that toured with them at the time.
     
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    Why not David Wayne too? That seems long overdue.
     
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    Oh absolutely!
     
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    No Ronnie Monroe please.
     
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    It's not about popularity at all. It's simply about doing the right thing.

    You've gotta be kidding me lol. I think the second era of Metal Church was more popular than you think. More than any other era for them. Not Big 4. But as big as Testament and Overkill etc. Absolutely. Metal Church with Howe was headlining big ass festivals.
    If popularity is the case for sending condolences to yes their peers which is exactly what they are. Then they are no better than pop people. And that's the opposite of what all these bands have been for 40 years.
     
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    I'm not talking about what the right or wrong thing to do is.

    I'm talking about what these guys are likely to do and what they've done for the last several years at least.

    This is why I am not surprised these guys have not said anything about MH.

    I find it heartbreaking though and a tragedy.

    I don't think there is as much "metal solidarity" in the established thrash scene as you seem to. Skolnick is slumming it in Testament though it is clear he couldn't care less about thrash or maybe metal anymore. Scott Ian isn't going to try to help some up and coming thrash bands. I think they just care about their own little circle and what can take them further in their career. For the most part they've always been this way.
     
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    Well they sure all yell about it being family enough when they are out on tour. I really don't think that that is just shtick. But. There are exceptions and funny you should bring up Skolnick and I agree. I wasn't surprised to see him comment on ZZ Top. While he did not comment on Mike. I haven't really considered Alex a real metalhead or part of the community for decades. Not just his musical output but his on and off attitude in the past. Scott on the other hand I just don't count ever. He really is just an ass kisser of popularity.
     
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    Hoglan said years ago in a zine interview that I have at home that he doesn't like Testament's music. A few years later he is in the band.

    It's a business.
     
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    Alright, you set that up and we'll be ready to watch it :)
     
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    I seem to remember MC getting respect from other bands when they released Damned (which surprised me a lot) and then that Vault collection thing. It's obviously not the same as a tribute to a fallen mate but I'm sure the band got support and respect from their peers then, so why not now.
     
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    Haha ouch x 2 :)
     
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    Not sure if anyone listens to it but Full Metal Jackie has Michael Gilbert on this weekend.
     
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