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Thermionik Amp Modeler Plugin by Kazrog LLC

Discussion in 'Backline' started by superfreak, Jan 22, 2014.

  1. spitfirees20

    spitfirees20 New Metal Member

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    Unfortunately, I knew it :-/ I'm a huge fan of recabinet, use it on all of my projects, but it has a very distinctive sound, and there's something that I can't put my finger on that makes it sound not real.
     
  2. akarawd

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    Thanks a lot for taking the time to respond Kazrog,

    Much appreciated
    Than
     
  3. Kazrog

    Kazrog CEO/CTO, Kazrog, Inc.

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    Recabinet is used on both clips, though. :lol:
     
  4. Studdy

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    I also just can't put my finger on what i don't like about recabinet. I bought it and just cant make it work for me. I do like the plugin as much as most of the ir loaders out there. I hope this is a cheap upgrade and good improvement for the people thats dished out for recabinet.
     
  5. Kazrog

    Kazrog CEO/CTO, Kazrog, Inc.

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    Is it that you don't like the sound of the included IR library? That's a very subjective thing; it may not be everyone's cup of tea. There's no way I could ever promise "improvement" to the library, as so much of that is an artistic choice.

    Recabinet lets you load any IRs you want, though, and the convolution engine is one of the most accurate (and efficient) out there.
     
  6. He's Dead, Jim

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    Oversize SM57 off axis close, dynamics at 70%, HPF/LPF, cut 3-4 db at 200 hz and add 1-2 db at ~1400 hz. That's my go-to setting for guitars in basically every mix, and I've found no particular reason to change it :lol:

    Recabinet takes a bit of sculpting to get exactly where you want it, but I'd rather have that than use s-pres high in every mix, which has a very defined sound from the start and won't necessarily sound good in everything. Recabinet, on the other hand, takes a bit more work, but you can craft it to your liking. Just my .02.
     
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    Too late, cut my ears off already
     
  8. Studdy

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    Are you generally only using one cab and muting the other? And are you using the recabinet eq at all? Aside from having an eq on the guitar bus / track for a touch of shaping in the mix.
     
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    The settings I gave were all Recabinet EQ for one cab only, other muted. No DAW eq at all. I'm not some guitar god, but those are reliable settings in general. Pretty foolproof, but you can add from there to taste. I like using a 121 on axis on the other cab and turning it down a few db, then shifting the HPF on the 57 cab upward in the frequency spectrum to prevent getting too bassy. Try just using the Recabinet eq; it'll force you to use only a few strategic cuts or boosts.
     
  10. Studdy

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    Im just not used to using guitar cabinet eq. In a real world scenario, i would tweak the eq on the amp. Get good mic placement. Then Eq in my daw/outboard to fit in the mix. Now i have to get used to eqing the amp, the cab, then the final polish. I will experiment some more, thanks dude.
     
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  12. Kazrog

    Kazrog CEO/CTO, Kazrog, Inc.

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    Lining up some more amps at the moment. Going to try and put as many killer amps into this as possible for the initial release. How do you guys feel about amp packs as add-on purchases, or a la carte amp model purchases, vs. one monolithic product? I can see upsides and downsides to each approach, and none are mutually exclusive, but I also want to avoid creating complex support hassles and I tend to favor simplicity.
     
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    One monolithic product. The a la carte or add-on purchase models reminds me of video game downloadable content and it feels kind of inherently skeevy to me.
     
  14. Manicompression

    Manicompression doing it for the kids

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    Yeah, I would prefer one product. Maybe additional paid updates when you get more stuff or an overwhelming amount of user requests for something.
     
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    For me that depends on the price. If all-in-one package will be expensive and will have stuff that I don't need, I will hesitate to buy it (see Guitar Rig). On the other side, if the basic package has only some unusable crap and the necessary models are expensive or come in packs with something I don't need (see Amplitube), that will turn me off as well.
     
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    It depends on price. One monolithic product is easier to deal with, but I would probably end up using just 2-3 of the amps anyway. I would rather pay a lower price for a few essential high gain amps than have to shell out more for a bunch of stuff I'll never use. So either sell the whole package very cheaply, or have 2 products, one with essential amps, and another one with everything, and of course an upgrade path and the same plugin ID or whatever, so if you upgrade, your DAW projects will change to the new version automatically.
     
  17. The-Zeronaut

    The-Zeronaut Mixing..Y U SO DIFFICULT?

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    It all depends on the price...

    but i would prefer the "buy what you want" option
     
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    For me I would like to have choice to have less amps that I would REALLY use and don't pay for that I don't like. If it would be possible to TRY add-on before buying (at least with disabled option for rendering or something else), it would be killer. Similar like one of those Zoom pedals that can have addons downloaded through phone and if not committed buy, than you can only demo that sound.

    OR if monolith type than it would need to have new addons as free updates, but than it would cause you as developer not so much interested in developing BEST product as possible.

    But as sounds I would be interested in those EVH/ 5150 series (not really digging TSE approach on them - even if they are good sims but texture of sound doesn't appeal to me); ampeg solid state amps used by oldschoolish brutal death metal bands; boss HM-2.
     
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    I would like to see a reasonable cost upgrade for recabinet owners, Just a couple killer amps to get a feel for it. Then additional packs available. So many amp sims it would be nice to get a taste fairly low cost first.
     
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    First.
     

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