just because some dunno how to handle weapons that doesnt give anyone the right to blame it on manson. manson's a unique character with some pretty good sound n attitude. i wanna see anyone with his kind of guts, willpower n talent. no? so dont make stupid judgement. just because i listen to Bodom does that make me a good guitarist? no! i can fuck up at playing the guitar even though i like alexi's guitar playing ... but do i blame my faults on him? no! about the goth n emo thing ... i agree with CLIFFBURTON ... but i think ... a goth can be an emo too, but not every emo can be a goth.