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Discussion in 'Nevermore' started by AsModEe, May 1, 2008.
Hehe maybe now they could get a decent singer.
who the hell is that, and why should i give a damn?
He was the guy responsible for the bad reviews that came of Divine Heresy's album... I was expecting them to kick him out sooner than that.
^^ mostly for fans of Fear Factory and the likes.
edit: @ Neal
This kinda split is what happens when bands get together for the sole purpose of becoming as successful as possible without really knowing each other. Sucks too, because I actually really like that album and his vocals on it. I never got to see them live.
Fear Factory's first couple albums were cool
yeah I still listen to Demanufacture and Obsolete from time to time.
haha i saw them live...wasnt anything special though...but that drummer is crazy, and dino is just a good guitar player.
listened to a song of them on youtube quite some time ago. i remember it being absolutely horrible ...
The drumming and guitar is really good on that album, but like you guys said, I just couldn't get past the vocals. It was like, "I want to be a heavy Killswitch Engage and jump on the bandwagon". Why are famous musicians so out of touch with the music scene?
when people see the money they dont care anymore
Well fuck balls, that just sucks. I liked his vocals.
that band is the single largest waste of tim yeungs time.
It's more like Dino, as a part of Fear Factory, being one of the forefathers of that "heavy verse, clean chorus" style, trying to install some sort of Fear Factory 2.0 - though he'd never admit that.
That being said, I liked the album. It wasn't anything new, especially in times when this style is heavily overdone in mainstream metal. But Dino's riffs still work for me and I got used to the vocals quickly and even liked the fact that Vext had much less effects layered on the vox. And Yeung's drumming is insane - but also insanely "artifical": perfectly quantized and sample heavy on the record - and waaaay to trigger-happy in live situations.
And that was also a problem with Vext live - he couldn't nearly live up the praise he got. But Burton was live always really hit or miss too.
the one time i saw fear factory live burton was fucking horrible. actually, the whole band was, they were rubbish live.
i saw em in '99 with Static-X and Dope. i didnt/dont listen to those bands on cd but live they were pretty good. it was dino's birthday so they had strippers come out when they played 'cars' and Tom Araya came out and they covered Angel of Death. all around awesome show!
Yeah Tim Yeung hits reeeaaallly sooooooft on the kicks and he really does use way too many samples on the album. He triggers his kicks A LOT...but that's not taking away from his ability or anything...he's still lightning fast.
Honestly, I don't know of one single drummer except Lombardo who DOESN'T trigger, and Lombardo sounds like fucking shit live. It's just 1-1 1-1 1-1 really fast, while these other guys are doing shit like 1-2 1-2 1-2 really fast, which is a lot harder. But Yeung is still amazing...I just wish he wouldn't cheat so much with the triggers. It's ok to trigger and sample to get a great sound, but not at the cost of hitting softly. My drummer used triggers and samples for some of his kicks on our album, but he's a fucking monster live, too. There must be a balance.
hmm i know this is just amateur but still...well a pretty good one.
look at his feet...it sounds triggered but it looks like its not.
He's also using his ankles like most death metal drummers do. It's a technique where you kinda roll your feet on the pedal instead stomping down on it 1-1 1-1 1-1. George Kollias is a master at the that shit.
This guy plays a lot like my drummer...or vice versa, hehe. Very calm, relaxed, using just the right amount of energy to get the sound you need and not banging away on it like Animal from the Muppets. I laugh at so many drummers who beat the shit out of their drums thinking they're gonna get a louder sound. There's a limit to how much sound you'll get at a certain point, and beating harder is just a waste of energy.