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Discussion in 'The Philosopher' started by waif, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Charvelguy

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    I wanna know if the fruit flies wore pink feather boas, demanded equality and went on a yearly parade down the middle of town...yes, inquiring minds.
     
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    naw, they were prolly locked up in a cell with nothing but other male fruitflys, so they got desperate and put their motor skills to work by rubbing up against each other, thereby determined to be performing erotic homosexual acts... but after all what would you do if you only lived for one season and making maggots was a priority motor function... opps, sorry I forgot you are now a insect and dont think... only act on impulse so I suppose thats a bad question
     
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    umm, want me one of them "real jocks" after all... we know any "real jock" is gay... yeehaw...ridem cowboy
     
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    Ok, you guys are right. Fucking attention-whore faggots probably want to get abused because they've got daddy-issues right? What's a guy to do when faced with such unrelenting annoying-ness? Pay no attention? Live and let live? No! Of course not. The natural thing to do is get repulsed and blame society for turning our kids into pansies! Why kowtow to one messed-up, mentally ill attention whore by sending the good wholesome boys who abused him to jail, thereby ruining a perfectly good life? The kid was asking for it after all.

    People shouldn't be able to live their lives unmolested if it makes some people uncomfortable. That's the way it was throughout history, and that's the way it is now in our global democracy, in spite of constant PC re-inforcement in the media, in the government and especially in the labs, all paid for by shadowy liberal figures. Fuck science especially, it's both given us the nuclear bomb and freed us from genocides which did the handy-dandy task of rooting out the weak (which would have undoubtedly included trannies). I finally comprehend the subtleties and the razor-sharp logic of your position after all. You win, man. High five!

    Gay fruit flies haha! That was a good one!
     
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    global democracy.......... :lol:
    constant PC re-inforcement in the media..........:lol:

    but you wouldnt understand the joke

    but I already know this
    careful now your ignoring... constant PC re-inforcement in the media. Who knows what their problem is but its theirs not a problem that should be exposed to the children of normal decent people. Also use of logic predated "global democracy" and "political correctness" by centuries... apparently some now believe the later two cancel the need to apply logic
    now thats a whole nother topic right there but I dont think its got to do with the whole of society only a certain percentage... :p Im waiting for scientific data
    they obviously broke a law but if the situation is where the poor poor dead child showed up for school in drag... his parents as well as school officials belong in the same jail cell, thats called accountability
    yes throughout history those that did not apply common sense have typically recieved some kind of attitude adjustment, this establishes a natural selection of thought, lets call it multiple choice that has one extremely bad answer

    rock hot... me pick up rock ??? sure go ahead the politically correct media:lol: says its alright
    great razor sharp interpretation, its no surprise you didnt hold up... its in who distributes the findings in select pieces, picking and choosing in order to keep the frosting free of finger prints
    this is partially true, but it is a fact that science has been a double edged sword, Im not aware that theres any denial of that but who would be surprised if some tried
    hate to disappoint you but you actually failed miserably
    There are no winners when logic fails to prevail
    Isnt it ironic
     
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    that, and legislation against science.


    an XY can get a drivers license to say he's XX... can I get one that says I'm 18 so I can fuck teenagers? who cares what science says my age is, that's not what I want to be, so just change the records, fucker.


    fuck, lemme rape the bitch and prove to the cops I aint a suspect---the license shows I'm a woman, and you're lookin for a man, hah! oh, the suspect was about 6'2? good thing my license says 5'10!


    I don't want rights taken from weirdos, and I don't want stupid ass laws repealed, all I ask for is equality.
     
  7. BlackMetalWhiteGuy

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    Whoa, my country has a president who is JUST like this!
    If they were secluded with other male fruit flies exclusively, then it would not have been a logical deduction that homosexuality was the natural force at work. Homosexuality is defined by a preference for members of your own sex, and this is impossible to determine unless they have a choice. Also, I'm not sure if you know anything about breeding fruit flies, but based upon your posts, I'm guessing you don't, since you really have no concept of any form of science at all. Anyway, I have bred two generations of fruit flies in lab and the standard method for doing this is to take a plate of sedated male and a plate of sedated females, and pour them into them same container, returning a week later to collect the offspring. Thomas Hunt Morgan on the other hand was a bit of a fruit fly fanatic and for some reason had the motivation and inquisitiveness to actually sit around and watch them go at it. It was during this process that he noticed that some males will always try to mate with other males, regardless of the number of females present. And no, he couldn't have been mistaken about the actually sex of the fruit flies involved, because they are sexually dimorphic and this difference is very easy to distinguish.
    Haha, güd won :p
     
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    I'm doing some reading on this Thomas Morgan. Of course, I want to know if he isolated and or somehow 'tagged' or marked the males that chose to make this preference and then put them in with only females to observe if they were truly making a preferential choice for only males or were on more on a 'breeding' frenzy, you know, the intense pull of the call of nature to procreate. Obviously, you see this behavior in cats, dogs, deer etc, the difference being is that humans have a higher cognative ability to override the hardwiring of basic instincts.
    From what I read, his studies and observations were for genetic mutations; genetic studies...not for sexuality research.

    I find it somewhat amazing they had to use virgin female fruit flies in their studies...umm, I'm quite sure they weren't wearing white so.. was it based upon size or age that it was determined they were virgins.
    Fruit Fly virgins, of course, ..oh, I won't even go there.
     
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    You're right, his studied were of genetic mutations, but the fact that homosexuality can be passed along recessively through the siblings of homosexual fruit flies is certain significant to genetics as well as sexuality.

    Also, it's important to use virgin females flies, because in many animal species, the females can retain sperm from copulations with previous males. Determining whether or not they are virgins is also quite simply. All you have to do is separate them by sex as "birth" and not re-introduce them to the other sex until you're ready to conduct your experiment.

    EDIT: My bad, Thomas Hunt Morgan is one of the foremost authorities on the Drosophila genus, but he's not the one who studied their homosexual behavior. I ran a quick search for "homosexuality drosophila" and it turns out (from multiple research articles) that all species in that genus exhibit homosexual behavior at an early age as part of their normal social development. I also found a couple of articles addressing the genetic component of homosexuality in Drosophila species, but they were so heavy in genetic jargon that it's a bit of a struggle (for me) to even comprehend everything that they're talking about, so here's the abstract that I found to be the easiest (and shortest) to read.

    Control of Male Sexual Behavior and Sexual Orientation in Drosophila by the fruitless Gene

    Lisa C. Ryner 1, Stephen F. Goodwin 2, Diego H. Castrillon 3, , Anuranjan Anand 1, Adriana Villella 2, Bruce S. Baker 1, Jeffrey C. Hall 2, Barbara J. Taylor 4 and Steven A. Wasserman 3

    1 Department of Biological Sciences, Stanford University, Stanford, California 94305, USA

    2 Department of Biology, Brandeis University, Waltham, Massachusetts 02254, USA

    3 Department of Molecular Biology and Oncology, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, Texas 75235, USA

    4 Department of Zoology, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon 97331, USA
     
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    Maybe but hes an asshole, and no body is JUST like me... I have personal identity... I got my hair dyed pink, spiked in the middle and a big fat stud imbedded in my forehead... thats how I know Im different... Now leave me alone and stop picking on poor poor me............... I just want equality, I want to be treated fairy and I want people to stop stareing at me.

    Maybe not a concept of science but at least I have concepts, science is still argueing, uncertain and proposing. ANYHOW, that whole artical you posted while interesting is still not 100% conclusive and does deal with mutant flies.

    ya really think so ? I kinda felt like I was being poked with a butter knife. "cause its just not fair" holds little weight and represents a dull form of logic for a complex situation

    This was precious :
    not that I have noticed, nor have I seen any "resolutions" just increased chaos, then of course the apparent theory behind resolving this particular confrontation is to let the weak minority side have their own way... thats "democracy" of course... :lol:
     
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    :lol: I've been saying for decades that there was something wrong with their genes.... so much for gut instincts and practical logic.... never should have second guessed myself

    the one scientist saying "I never chose to be heterosexual; it just happened." is precious, as if hes regreting or worse yet trying to imply its not the norm or that something had gone astray for him against his will. Absolutely priceless piece of PC right there

    Now I just wanna know why the gay chubby lovers look like brothers ?
     
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    But unlike you, science is actually making progress. Also, "mutant" in this context doesn't imply physical deformation, it means that they have genetic alterations.
    Yeah, I posted a similar link back on the page one.
     
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    Well democracy as practiced in the United States has given undue credit to the opinions of masses of unthinking douches like yourself, so don't be too hard on it. Like the above poster said, your straight-talkin' "I knows it when I sees it" mentality is reflected quite well in the current commander-in-chief, after all.
     
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    This becomes more amusing by the day. So let me get this straight. You two and a tiny handful of others feel that:

    Denying transgender is a mutation or mental illness is ..... progress ?

    Boys trying to be girls... girls/boys is ...... progress ?

    anybody that thinks about it and holds an opinion opposite of your own... must therefore be incapable of applying thought and you are the representation of .......... progress ?

    excuse me here, I realize it is unpopular to apply independant thought as it may impede progress but this seems to imply that these fruity flys occured in a genetic alteration (mutation)?

    I was also unaware until now that "mutation" only occurs in the physical state not also in the the mental state ...... this realization has suddenly made me feel ......... progressive

    Really ? So this is what made The States stand so far apart and so far advanced from the rest of the world ? Wow, thats friggin awesome! Heres to the masses of unthinking douches :kickass:

    wait... but suddenly Im confused... does the fact that we are "unthinking douches" reduce us to the level of fruitflys or Bonobo monkeys in the mist of a frenzy ? Im suddenly feeling a fruitflyaphobia setting in

    Unthinking douche that I am... I've often wondered... I noticed one of the first things animals do upon meeting... is stick their noses in each others genitals and apparently in the case of Bonobo monkeys they just start humping regardless... now in the case of some women(sorry seems natural to me)... I myself have felt that urge pass through my primitive conscience. So I've wondered if I became a more progressive advanced thinking douche than I currently am and just let it "all hang out" and greeted people in this fashion... could I do so and not expect to get the shit kicked out of me ? I mean what would be the harm of dropping to my knees every 100 feet or so on the sidewalk and sticking my nose between a sexy ladies legs ? Why would this make other people think "he aint right in the head" ?

    But then again I've noticed another one of the first things animals do is posture off the intruder and if that should not work, they engage the intruder in physical force, often in force outnumbering the wondering stray and sending them on their way somewhat damaged if not dead.

    Geeze... this progressive thinking stuff is blowing my mind... but what could I expect being a "nonthinking douche" and all like that

    So please lets hear the profound thoughts of the great progressive thinkers involved in this conversation.... after all that is what I've been waiting for.
     
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    I feel that since my opinion is rooted in my education of related topics and that since I can provide data to explain why I feel the way that I do that my opinion has more validity that that of someone who isn't educated in related fields and has no familiarity with any of the scientific aspects surrounding the subject.

    For example, I consistently disagreed with deathmetalblackmetal before he stopped posting, but at least he could relate his thoughts in a scientifically sound manner and justify his opinions with actual data, although we often disagreed on how to interpret such data.
     
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    Thing is everything I stated in regards to this topic has been supported by the data of others as well as observations of human behavior. At this point I see you and Poonna as only being pissed off because I bashed the necessity of science having any relevance on that fact that if you show up in school dressed in drag... you might get the shit kicked out of ya, so one might better apply some common sense. I even know studys of the human mind can explain why this happens but I dont need them, its blantently obvious and it is a natural primitive instinct of survival to avoid confrontation. Only in recent years are we trying to deny all these natural instincts and challenge them. So some have used rare primitive impulsive bisexual behavior in nature, painted it as erotic homosexual and used that to support people thinking they are the opposite sex as not having any internal issues. Many of my opponents even tried to deny they were born that way, when I gave them full credit for having issues they have no control over. But there is one thing they do have control over, accountability.
     
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    If we're asking them what's going on in their minds, I think we can trust them to tell us.

    Then how can you tell?

    Fuck...showed up before.
    It was a picture of the x-men, in case you were wondering. You don't seem to realize that mutations are natural - it's how evolution works.

    That's a cop out - dismissing gays as people who never grow up.
    The reason it seems to be an issue with teenagers is that it's starting to come out now, and it's coming from teenagers, because a lot of older LGBTQ people suppressed themselves and hid it.

    Okay, then. Explain to me how it hurts other kids when one kid wears a skirt.
    There are only slight exaggerations that accentuate the point, rather than undermining it.

    I don't mean to be whateverist, but there's a large fundamentalist Christian element in the south that likes to deny reality.

    This is called a debate. It's how they prevent themselves from being ridiculous. Science > you.
    It's common knowledge that millions of Americans suffer from mental disorders. Are we really arguing this point?
    Yes. Give me a fact and I'll accept it.
    ?
    It is irrelevant because we're debating (or trying to) on a more hypothetical level, and so the numbers aren't really important. However, if we assume a school system to be about 4,000 kids, there will be more than one transgender kid.
    A. Yes.
    B. Irrelevant. I explained before that personal experience isn't really applicable because your geographic locations will affect your experience.

    Sorry. I guess I just don't see how seeing a guy wearing a skirt is such a traumatic and painful experience.

    I was making fun of you because your arguments had become so ridiculous it wasn't worth pointing out the flaws in your thinking.
    You haven't supplied a single fact or piece of hard evidence in this entire thread.

    Everyone will be different in some way. Really, how big an element of someone's personality is sexual preference?
    Thank you doctor.

    Do you not go outside?
    Said mental disorder is clinical depression. Clinical depression has a cause. That cause is the suppression of said LGBT people.
    Keeping us guessing...good way to convince people you're right.
    You said school system, which includes all the schools in the area. A single high school will have between a couple hundred (small rural) and 4 or even 5 thousand (large urban). Elementary schools will have less.

    No, there's this crazy thing called knowledge.

    Irony is dead. You killed it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals#References
    Have fun. Then come back and tell me that it's all lies created by the gay jewish bankers who rule the world.

    Yes, you really are.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder#Prevalence
    Stats from the World Health Organization. Accept it: you're wrong.
    Not surprising, considering I don't consider Focus On The Family a reliable source.
    Typically. Key word. This is obviously atypical behavior.

    Again. Failure to distinguish between crossdressing and transsexuality. But anyhow, the point is that it's not clear that transsexuality is a mental disorder.

    You've reject science - homosexuality in animals - and psychology - millions of people with mental disorders. Failure.

    This is really lame. "Oh, I'm older and I know better and shit." Fuck that. I'm not buying it. Come up with some actual evidence or stfu.
    Unless you live in a country with laws that prohibit assault.

    Good for you. I meant gay sex, though.

    Of course they are. But just the idea of a guy wearing female clothing is a big deal for you. My point is sex appeal doesn't enter into it - just the concept of a guy dressing in women's clothing because it feels right to him bothers you so much.

    Some goths and punks do it.

    Yes, you lackwit.
    Should they be taken to a separate school for kids who aren't straight?
    The story itself continues to amuse me
    This is ignorant and mildly offensive. For one thing, straight kids seek to reaffirm their identity everywhere. Also, they totally try to stand out. A sexual identity crisis isn't the only identity crisis you can have, either. Furthermore, suggesting homosexuality or transsexualism is a fad is absurd, and assuming that their identity only goes as far as the clothing they wear is ridiculous.

    Fuck you, grandpa.

    Have fun doubting those facts about animal homosexuality and mental disorders.

    [/quote]SFIEMIBB[/QUOTE]
    WTF? Explain your acronym.

    OH MY GOD! Other cultures! They must be inferior deviants!

    It's irrelevant. The point is that other cultures (which may not be as different as you think) are accepting of this stuff because they recognize it as natural. Further, that seclusion? What relevance does it hold?

    What if you were walking along the street and someone attacked you for preferring redheads to blondes?
    Right. The idea is that they shouldn't have to avoid said confrontation. Are you saying Rosa Parks should have stayed in the back of the bus?

    I tried to rephrase this in a way comprehensible to normal humans and I think that you're saying that you have more experience than me. If so, it's you versus hundreds of scientists saying that homosexuality occurs in animals.

    Wow, you're amazing. So gay people are freakish attention whores backed by the crooked pill-pushing medical institution.

    :rolleyes:

    Ask a stupid question, don't expect an answer.

    :rolleyes:

    :rolleyes:

    Darn tootin'

    So don't make it. you seem to laugh privately a lot.

    This is the single stupidest opinion any human being has ever expressed on this planet. Ever. Jesus fucking christ. Wow. I'm getting a bit of a rush just from reading that...

    yes, clearly.
    Or maybe...instinct tells me I should do something that doesn't harm anyone else...oh, shit, a mob is lynching me!
    you just killed the concept of analogies. god that was bad.
    no one is trying to spread some myth of homosexuality or transexuality in order to make money.

    t
    You know, the people who developed the nuclear bomb argued against it's use...

    Wasn't aware of this.
    Anyhow...

    really poor analogy here...

    A. Congratulations, you fail at stereotypes. Sounds more like a goth than a fag
    B. Most homosexuals are not flamboyent and do not try to draw attention
    C. Otherwise, you more or less captured what they want. Is that so wrong?
    You mean scientists debate things and consider multiple possibilities instead of assuming they're right and going from there?
    And yes, it isn't conclusive. But it's strong evidence.

    [​IMG]
    Congress: Last outbreak of violence was when a pro-slavery senator attacked another congressman for criticizing slavery.

    Not such a tiny handful

    Well, yes, it it's not a mental illness.
    People acting how they feel they should is good, yes.
    No. Anyone incapable of rationally debating this without devolving into absurd comparisons, anneccdotal evidence, and personal invective is wrong, however.
    Indeed. As did every other aspect of all living things. We started as single celled organisms. Everything from there has been a genetic mutation. The genetic difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is most likely a single allele, and it's unlikely that any genetic factor is fully responsible for sexual orientation.
    It should have made you feel stupid.

    :lol:
    Who hasn't?
    Because you're fucking with other people. If it's allowable for one gender to wear a garment in public, it should be allowable for both. It's not generally acceptable for anyone to go around naked or sexual harass random women, and no one is saying that should change.
    Animals rarely engage in serious physical violence against members of their own species.
     
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    SFIEMIBB[/QUOTE]WTF? Explain your acronym.OH MY GOD! Other cultures! They must be inferior deviants!It's irrelevant. The point is that other cultures (which may not be as different as you think) are accepting of this stuff because they recognize it as natural. Further, that seclusion? What relevance does it hold?What if you were walking along the street and someone attacked you for preferring redheads to blondes?Right. The idea is that they shouldn't have to avoid said confrontation. Are you saying Rosa Parks should have stayed in the back of the bus?I tried to rephrase this in a way comprehensible to normal humans and I think that you're saying that you have more experience than me. If so, it's you versus hundreds of scientists saying that homosexuality occurs in animals.Wow, you're amazing. So gay people are freakish attention whores backed by the crooked pill-pushing medical institution.:rolleyes:Ask a stupid question, don't expect an answer.:rolleyes::rolleyes:Darn tootin'So don't make it. you seem to laugh privately a lot.This is the single stupidest opinion any human being has ever expressed on this planet. Ever. Jesus fucking christ. Wow. I'm getting a bit of a rush just from reading that...yes, clearly.Or maybe...instinct tells me I should do something that doesn't harm anyone else...oh, shit, a mob is lynching me!you just killed the concept of analogies. god that was bad.no one is trying to spread some myth of homosexuality or transexuality in order to make moneytYou know, the people who developed the nuclear bomb argued against it's use...Wasn't aware of this.Anyhow...really poor analogy here...
    A. Congratulations, you fail at stereotypes. Sounds more like a goth than a fagB. Most homosexuals are not flamboyent and do not try to draw attentionC. Otherwise, you more or less captured what they want. Is that so wrong?You mean scientists debate things and consider multiple possibilities instead of assuming they're right and going from there?And yes, it isn't conclusive. But it's strong evidence.[​IMG]Congress: Last outbreak of violence was when a pro-slavery senator attacked another congressman for criticizing slavery.Not such a tiny handfulWell, yes, it it's not a mental illness.People acting how they feel they should is good, yes.No. Anyone incapable of rationally debating this without devolving into absurd comparisons, anneccdotal evidence, and personal invective is wrong, however. Indeed. As did every other aspect of all living things. We started as single celled organisms. Everything from there has been a genetic mutation. The genetic difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is most likely a single allele, and it's unlikely that any genetic factor is fully responsible for sexual orientation.It should have made you feel stupid.:lol:Who hasn't?Because you're fucking with other people. If it's allowable for one gender to wear a garment in public, it should be allowable for both. It's not generally acceptable for anyone to go around naked or sexual harass random women, and no one is saying that should change.Animals rarely engage in serious physical violence against members of their own species.[/QUOTE]

    ^ this was the biggest piece of shit post I have ever seen so I didnt read much of it

    WHO estimated that about 450 million people worldwide currently suffer from some form of mental or behavioural disorder.[27] One in four people will suffer from mental illness at some time in life, according to a report from the WHO.[28][29] It was also found that the most frequent disorders were anxiety disorders, depressive, somatoform and substance dependence disorders.

    Oh wow, you mean people have anxioty, get depressed and take drugs...... when you need numbers its easy to pill them up, especially in todays ball assed world

    Homosexual (as well as bisexual) behavior is widespread in the animal kingdom. Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species and the motivations for and implications of their behaviors have yet to be fully understood as most species have yet to be studied.

    :lol: yes very interesting artical. But then I know what Im reading about and you dont. Sounds just like the same issue as with humans to me..... :zombie:
     
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    Right. So lets say that the numbers are off by a fuckload. Instead of 450 million, it's only 350 million, a paltry and insignificant amount.
    I feel like it's their job to find these numbers, and they really aren't being paid to screw with the statistics, so I think it's a trustworthy figure.

    [/QUOTE]
    Well, yes. Anxiety disorders and depression, as well as fucked up sleeping and stuff, are the most common. So what? They're legitimate mental disorders.
    First off, congratulations on inventing the phrase "ball-assed," I'm sure it will catch on.
    Secondly, an anxiety disorder can be extremely serious, as can depression. What do you consider a real disorder?

    Care to spell out your credentials, Dr. Doolittle?

    Well, yes, that's the point - animals also engage in homosexual activity. This was the point I've been attempting to get through your skull for several pages now.
     

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