Figure this... and someone else in on previous post did the math too: Figure round numbers...(disclaimer I'm making this all up): 10 venues. 300 people. $20 tickets. 3 bands. Figure Saxon's opening. So thats 50% for the venue.... If you think I'm exagerating then fill in your own math or open your own venue. Venue supplies sound, speakers, showers for the guys, washing machine, clean counch for a few hours, sandwiches, a place to dump the RV toilet, etc, etc.. 35% for Saxon figure 10% for Band #2 Band #3 pays to play 10% for publicity The rest goes under the table. Figure a sellout and 300 people show up. Make your own spreadsheet if you want to! This one is mine! $20 a ticket times 300 people times 10 venues times (.35 for Saxon) = $21,000 Now figure 5 guys in the band and 4 roadies support guys. Figure $10000 for airfare (two-way international coach $800 ea for 9 people plus extra for equipment.) Figure $$$ each for visa/application fees etc. Figure $$$ for American lawyers. Figure $$$ for American insurance (Remember Rhode Island..The bands gotta front it). Figure $$$ for rental of 2 tour buses one for Saxon 5 guys and one for 4 roades each getting 10 mpg at $2.79 accross America (Thank you very much W)..+$25 per state in tolls times 8 states=$400. Figure $300 per day just to eat. (A diner is $8 per plate per day figureing the venue gives you one meal. so thats 9 guys. 9x8=72 figuring you eat at the venues. Dont forget all the coffees anf Starbuks and thruway stops add another $$$..... Bal bla bla.. You all get the idea??? NOW HEAR THIS!!! THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS. PLEASE LISTEN UP! ANY EVENT OF Saxon coming to America is a GIFT from the band! There is no way that they can make any kind of money in america. Sorry to say, I love Saxon. I buy all of their albums. I own Cds LPs, Casettes. I have seen tours in NYC and NJ in 1984 (P+G), 1988 (Destiny), 1994 (Dogs), 1998(UTB), 2001(Metalhead), 2003 (KG) and still waiting for Lionheart tour. I wish them well in all of their businesses. After all, it is a business. We all gotta eat. I love your music and I wish you can come to play in America. I also request your music on WSOU 89.5NJ and WSOS Chicago when I can. Please make your money where you can and where it is influential becuse even though the American mass market has not been kind to Saxon, international album sales have been. Lets face it Biff..if you were 17 in 79 then you are too young. Go more. Stones and Aerosmith are still going. Nevermind big bands, how about Grannys Girlschols, Joan Jett, gramps, Motorhead, Waysyed. Come to USA Saxon!