This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Welcome to Our Community

Wanting to join the rest of our members? Feel free to sign up today.

  1. Just a heads up... In the next week or two we will be making some major upgrades to the site to bring the software and server fully up to date. While the upgrade happens the site will be offline for the day. There will be some quirkiness after the upgrade, but we'll get it all sorted out.
    Dismiss Notice

Velvet Cacoon music stealers?

Discussion in 'RC' started by Trylakos, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. Trylakos

    Trylakos gimme my key bitch!

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2005
    Messages:
    1,974
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Newfoundland,Canada
    from Wikipedia:

    Further controversy surrounds this band in the form of plagiarism accusations. The song "Chesapeake Tide" is also credited to Miranda Lehman aka Korouva and appears on her album "Shipwrecks & Russian Roulette" under the name "Tide"; similarly, the song Velvet Cacoon calls "Candlelit Constellations" is credited to Korouva under the name "Wheat Fields", as well VC have also used photographs and drawings from the same source without permission. It seems that the "highly elusive" Velvet Cacoon demo "How the last day came and stayed then faded into simulated rain" was almost completely plagiarized from Korouva's "Shipwrecks & Russian Roulette", which has been sold through the website 16sparrows since February of 2005, before the release of the Velvet Cacoon Demo and were posted in her Livejournal, in working form, long before any Velvet Cacoon release. Korouva's album has 10 tracks, while VC's demo has 9, though two tracks that can be found in Korouva's Myspace are not in VC's demo. When Confronted with these accusations, Velvet Cacoon deleted their official Myspace music page which contained stolen tracks and artwork from Miranda.

    Velvet Cacoon's "Dizzy from Eternity" demo is in fact My Violent Ego's "Clicks & Hisses".

    The band may also have passed off songs by Pink Martini and The Decemberists as their own.

    Josh's message taken from their google e-group: "And on the subject of Velvet Cacoon, the band is a total fraud. Nothing about it holds any importance. The "How the Last Day" demo isn't even us. It's Miranda Lehman from Portland. (check the Wiki site). "Dizzy" isn't us. It's "My Violent Ego". Nothing is us. "Northsuite" was recorded in 3 hours and sold to a fake label who paid us enough for rent and substances. That's why its so terrible. We're utter bastards. We have no respect for anything. Now we're beginning the campaign to show just what we've done. We are walking examples of what far too many drugs will do. They make you crave havoc. They make you want to turn the world upside down while laughing like a maniac.

    And now the soft afterglow sets in. VC is winding down. One last album. One final collection. And the damn thing isn't even recorded yet. Maybe we'll just steal it too. I must tell you that our correspondence will not continue much longer. I'm going to make a clean break - you'll know when the moment hits. You'll know exactly what I mean too.

    First, I must convince the world that I am nothing special or intelligent, nor was Velvet Cacoon. If there was discussion about us before, I can only imagine what is about to come.

    Feel free to spread this letter."

    edit: stole this whole thread including the title etc from a nother board, just putting it up for discussing
     
  2. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2002
    Messages:
    38,467
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Kandarian Ruins
    hahahaha I love that band more and more each day.
     
  3. MajestikMøøse

    MajestikMøøse Membrum virile

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2003
    Messages:
    22,243
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Not Siberia
    haehahahahahahahahahhah

    I KNEW they had at least one more trick to play on us.

    Man these guys rule.
     
  4. Erik

    Erik New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2001
    Messages:
    16,450
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    southernmost voyage
    yeah i saw that

    everyone who ever thought velvet cacoon had actual female members = fucking owned
     
  5. lizard

    lizard Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2002
    Messages:
    23,325
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Hotel Hitler ~ Where We Have Ways of Making You En
    sheer genius.
     
  6. swizzlenuts

    swizzlenuts i'm sciencing as fast as i can

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2003
    Messages:
    9,187
    Likes Received:
    97
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Arkham
    I'm glad I never took the time to check these guys out.
     
  7. Trylakos

    Trylakos gimme my key bitch!

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2005
    Messages:
    1,974
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Newfoundland,Canada
    yeah wimmenz ain't smart enough for this trickery right?

    I bet Angela or whoever is the one who makes his tea.
     
  8. Erik

    Erik New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2001
    Messages:
    16,450
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    southernmost voyage
    velvet cacoon is josh sitting at his computer with a pirated copy of cubase SX

    nothing more nothing less

    there were never any other members, no 7 girls, no founding member that fell and died, etc

    and no matter how many twists and turns this whole soap opera is going to have, genevieve STILL rules
     
  9. skeptik

    skeptik Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2003
    Messages:
    24,413
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Morpha is better.
     
  10. cthulufhtagn

    cthulufhtagn Went Out for Smokes 13 Years Ago

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    7,665
    Likes Received:
    50
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    south of washington
    bwahahaha, somebody make this man a sandwich

    so uh, never checked out this band, do they have stuff that is actually supposedly not stolen or is their entire career based on stealing? because if it is that's more points in their favor, irony is a sweet mistress :lol:
     
  11. Trylakos

    Trylakos gimme my key bitch!

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2005
    Messages:
    1,974
    Likes Received:
    12
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Newfoundland,Canada
    I'm pretty sure the black metal stuff is their own
     
  12. J.

    J. Old Fart

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2001
    Messages:
    26,307
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The Woodlands
    anyone who ever enjoyed this no talent hram sucking dolt's music = owned
     
  13. M.Lehto

    M.Lehto Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    1,587
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Haha, indeed.
     
  14. Erik

    Erik New Metal Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2001
    Messages:
    16,450
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    southernmost voyage
    i dont want to start a whole shitstorm here again but why? what does this have to do with the music he actually DID make?
     
  15. dill_the_devil

    dill_the_devil OneMetal.com Music Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2001
    Messages:
    5,004
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Darlaston, West Midlands, England
    I've heard a track by The Decemberists, '13 Military Wives' I think it's called. Velvet Cacoon is supposed to be black metal, isn't it (as well as a huge fucking joke on everyone who thought Josh was genuine about the whole thing, ever)? Surely it must only have taken around 15 seconds for people who heard this stuff to go 'Waaaait a minute...'
     
  16. NAD

    NAD What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2002
    Messages:
    38,467
    Likes Received:
    1,171
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Kandarian Ruins
    I like the people who enjoyed the music, then when the truth was revealed, said fans decided to hate it. Allowing factors exterior to the craft itself to sway your opinion on a piece of art is the biggest LOL of all.
     
  17. dill_the_devil

    dill_the_devil OneMetal.com Music Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2001
    Messages:
    5,004
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Darlaston, West Midlands, England
    "Metallica cut their hair? Gay."
    "Slayer's vocalist is actually Christian? Gay and lying."
    "Emo fringes and tight T-shirts? Gender confusion alert!"
    "Opeth signed to Roadrunner? Sellouts."
     
  18. lizard

    lizard Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2002
    Messages:
    23,325
    Likes Received:
    31
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Hotel Hitler ~ Where We Have Ways of Making You En
    this reminds me of something...

    hmmmmmmmmmm








    whatever could it be...........



    LOLZ
    [​IMG]
    black metal
     
  19. dill_the_devil

    dill_the_devil OneMetal.com Music Editor

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2001
    Messages:
    5,004
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Darlaston, West Midlands, England
    Milli Vanilli were the shit.
     
  20. Chromatose

    Chromatose Squid pro quo

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2002
    Messages:
    20,880
    Likes Received:
    67
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maryland
    hilarious! :tickled:

    Now at least I'll be able to get that Dizzy from Eternity .. errrrr My Violent Ego CD!
     

Share This Page