wow, really? seriously? I suggest you look at the extant evidence which shows otherwise. except heathenry is not a religion, that's problem number #1 that's a modern worldview talking, problem #2 "belief" is not necessary, nor was it a part of the worldview of our ancestors, it just "was." that is so christian.... actually, yea, you can be wrong...
Figures, this topic livens up, and I'm too damn worn out to muster the slightest bit of mental muscle.
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I have a difficult question for experts: Tacitus mentions in his 1rst century "Germania" a Germanic God called Tuisto. Some specialists have said this Tuisto, who is a primordial god according to Tacitus' text, could be an ancient German aspect of the later Tyr, when Tyr was the main god of the pantheon and before he was "dethroned" by Odin and Thor in terms of importance and cult. Now this Tuisto, as a primodial god, seems to correspond more with the norse primordial god Buri who is mentioned in the Scandinavian texts. Using these as evidence, I have heard from non-specialists that Tyr and Buri could actually have been originally the same god, only they were separated over time. Has anyone here heard of those theories, and if so do you happen to have some sources on this?
or less......according to Simek he seems to be related to Ymir, not Buri as the ".....earth born hermaphrodite ancestor of the race of man, and therefore the meaning of the name Tuisto as 'hermaphrodite' is quite likely. The form of the name Tuisco (the actual manuscript reading) can also be traced back etymologically to the same basic meaning." Celtik do you have Simek's Dictionary of Northern Mythology? If you do check the references there, it's easier because the Tyr entry is kinda long.
Oh yeah, Ymir, I actually had a little mix-up but indeed, you're right. Thanks for the infos. The main question bothering me is the relation of Tyr with these ancient deities. I don't have Simek's dictionary, but I actually just ordered a couple days ago on amazon a 2009 dictionary on Norse mythology by some French specialist. One probably wouldn't think we have specialists on the norse but I do trust them for their competence in this domain, since we've had some very influent ones, like Georges Dumézil (he's my hero) and Régis Boyer. I'm hoping the dictionary will offer some further info on this. But I fear it won't go so much into the details. I'll probably need to find an article on Tyr or Tuisto in some respected publication to have more detailed information about this... that is if these theories actually do exist.
I believe this is the right place for me to tell the history behind my username. Oskoreii (or" Åsgåreien" or "oskoreien") derives from the words "åsgård" (asgard) and "rittet" (the ride), and refers to the belief that every once in a while, the gods and those who recently died, are traveling through our world on their way to the next world. under this ride, the gods and the dead will attempt to steal food and valuable things from the people of midgard. If, however, the living people will draw crosses (like "+", not the cristian cross) over their doors, the dead will avoid that building. oskoreii was a feared phenomeon, and if some food disappeared without obvious reason, oskoreii was blamed.
so for two of my Mjolnirs I just hallowed out some OD green 550 cord and used that instead of a chain.
How would I go about making an offering to one or more of the norse gods? I had a very close call the other day in a car accident (I was driving and if a number of factors had been slightly different I'd probably be in the hospital or morgue by now) and I feel like I should cover my bases... inb4 go to church, I am not cool with the Roman Catholics around here or the Protestants. I'm not sure what exactly they'd think of me either as I'm not christened/baptised33whatever the correct term is.
Own personal opinion is that you are either spiritually minded or you are not. Like many other things it either works for you or it doesn't, full stop. If you are that way minded, by all means look it up, sooner or later you'll find someone who can explain, and then reach your own decision.
Fuck you, I don't take that personally, but if that's the attitude you give to anyone who asks a question then how the fucking hell is anyone going learn anything? You seem pretty arrogant in most of your posts I've seen lately, yet really who are you to judge? I don't mean that as an insult, more like constructive criticism. I don't really expect you take any notice of what I think of you, this being the internet and all, but seriously man, get off your high horse once in a while... First time in a while I've internet raged Yeah, well I thought here would a decent place to ask what with some of the members' knowledge, apparently not.
Oh, Im sure someone will point you in the right direction, sooner or later. Sadly I can't help! Oh, and as for the rage- when I said reach your own decision I actually meant reach your own decision despite what others think. because where religion/politics is concerned you may expect to encounter a can of worms every now and then.
Imo it is a decent place to ask. Read the book The Faith Instinct: How Religion Evolved and Why It Endures, by Nicolas Wade. He says religion evolved into our genes. If you have finished the book I hope all your questions will be answered. It's a very interesting book explaining why (most, not me) ppl "needed" and still "need" religion.
