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Discussion in 'General Metal Discussion' started by Alongside Death, Aug 14, 2006.
Iron Maiden is higly gay and I never cared about old or new Metallica.
Do you think intensity is speed. Say you think that death metal is suppose to be fast or brutal or that just these things make intensity ?
I don't think death metal has to be fast or brutal to have a dark sinister atmospheric vibe. I think speed and over emphasis of being brutal can actually take those qualities away. I hate when a band overdoes something to the point it sounds ridiculous or pointless or even trendy.
You hear all these new tech DM bands with clicky drumming that actually do not capture any kind of death metal essense regardless being death metal, or bands simple not musically capable of capturing an atmosphere sounding like random noisy chuggy garbage.
Listen to Immolation.
Are you talking to me ?
(I already have all their cds).
death metal to me is intense blast beat drumming, combined with the fastest shredding and arm ripping guitar solos on top of gore lyrics and very deep vocals
Urfaust is a black metal band that uses clean singing.
So is Mercyful Fate. And Bathory. I was just making a point.
Oh, well I didn't read the rest of the thread, so I didn't see your post.
Oh. Well, in general, then.
You know, I was thinking the other day.... 'breathing whispers'.. could, also be used in Black Metal.
Don't know if they HAVE been used..
They've been used in Symphonic Black Metal for sure, I've heard it in a Cradle of Filth song (which I'm not sure which one). In true black metal? It might work if stradegistically placed... not sure. Going to have to wait on this one.
I personally believe the genre lies in a combination of how the vocals and instrumentals are worked. Change one and the genre changes.
The bands we stated use all or mostly clean singing, not just a combination of screaming and singing. They are still black metal. Just like Children of Bodom used to be power metal, even though they used harsh vocals.
Also, vocals won't change the genre of music. Clean singing + Death Metal riffing = Death Metal, or alternatively, Growling + Heavy Metal riffing = Heavy Metal.
Edit: Thrash is a great example of why vocals don't matter. You have bands like Heathen, Artillery, Holy Terror, Megadeth, and Overkill on one side, and Coroner, Kreator, Sodom, Sabbat, and Chakal on the other, but they're all Thrash Metal regardless.
It seems thrash is the only genre completey defined by riffage.
I thought Tearstained used screaming? I'll listen to them real quick.
Vocals are usually the most important factor for me in liking music.
To me the instruments are the most imporant factor. I think vocals are just something to spice up the song and make it more exciting.