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Waves API collection?

Discussion in 'Backline' started by Joelegend, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. Joelegend

    Joelegend Joe not so legend

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    The Waves API collection, is this a no brainer? I know it's been at a low price before, but now i've got the demo and been messing with the compressor on the drums of a new recorded song, and seems to do nice things to it. Is it worth the 250$/190€?
     
  2. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    Love love love the compressor on shells - SO fucking punchy. The EQ's are also pretty damn good but I don't find myself using them that often for whatever reason.

    Guys are probably going to come in and say that the comp sounds nothing like the real 2500 compressor - they always overlook the fact that the plugin still sounds fucking awesome.
     
  3. Charlie E.

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    I remember getting the Studio collection (API, SSL, and V) because I was originally going to just get the API and SSL but there was a sale that basically meant I got all 3 for the price of 2.
    Turns out I liked the V the most out of the 3 :D
    Great plugins.
     
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    I use the API eq's quite alot, the 550 is quite broad so good for general shaping rather than surgical stuff. I also tend to use the 560 eq for mastering.

    Not really used the comp much myself, need to give it another go actually.
     
  5. egan.

    egan. daylightdies.com

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    This was my post verbatim. The comp kills. I don't care if it doesn't sound like the real deal.
     
  6. Studdy

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    Am I the only one who finds the v series plugins loud. Almost like a bad background noise. Fake tube sound or something. If i put the compressor on a vocal for example it seems almost like it's bringing out a ton of room/background noise. I've used the API 2500 Comp and agree it would be great from some fairly aggressive drum compression. The 5k Crack on the 550 eq is something that i haven't been able to recreate with any other eq. Just a slight 2db boost will bring a lot of "forwardness" to a snare track or alike. Not even saying i love it, but it does do something "special". As dumb as this sounds it almost feels like boosting is brightening with a hint of transient design, i know that sounds stupid but it's the way the eq sounds to me, very forward.
     
  7. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    Doesn't sound stupid at all - it's very likely a blend of EQ and saturation/distortion going on that brings out the stick attack and makes the snare sound like it was hit harder. Good EQs do that.
     
  8. XxSicRokerxX

    XxSicRokerxX Gabriel R.

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    Waves API-2500 is fucking genius, I can get a real nice SMACK w it.
     
  9. colonel kurtz

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    yea the 2500 comp. just fucking kills it. i always reach for it first for a master buss comp, and rarely do i find that it's not to my liking. it's really great for taking off a few db's before hitting a limiter on the master.

    i know the hardware 550 EQ is the shit of legends, but i'm not a huge fan of the plugin...just can't ever quite get it to do what i want it to - however the 560 graphic can be great on certain shit, esp. guitar tracks
     
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    EQ's rule for boosting guitars.
     
  11. Lasse Lammert

    Lasse Lammert HCAF Blitzkrieg

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    I'm rarely using the comp for whatever reason.
    It's great, I'm just not thinking of it very often (it's always on piano tracks though!).
    I like the 550 eqs a lot for vocals.
    Not using the graphic much though.
     
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    i think the fact that everyone who has posted about them uses different plugs for different applications speaks pretty well to their versatility!
     
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    I had them cracked on my old setup. You could push them really hard without making them sound gross- that's all I really remember. Wish I had the cash man. Hoping these tax returns come in soon I need better comp/eq/reverbs bad...
     
  14. Joelegend

    Joelegend Joe not so legend

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    My guess it is worth buying then. The little i tried with em on the drums made em really aggresive, unlike some other (cheaper) comps i have, they seem to tame the drums. I don't care if they don't sound like the real stuff, i don't even know what the real thing does to your sound, and prolly never will. But i think a company like API wouldn't approve shitty plugins are made with their name on it?
     
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    I don't use the compressor much. I should start using it more, been using the V-comp on my drum buss lately.

    The 550 eq's DEFINITELY have their own character. they aren't quite like the real ones, and I work on a vintage api with 40 channels of 550a's and 550B's. Amazing, but the software does a great job. A little 5K and 10K makes things cut quite a bit...
     
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    I just love the splat you can get on the snare with the compressor, it seems to really enjoy faster attack times on shells.
     
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    Parallel comp on the shells with the 550B into the 2500 is something I just cannot do without. EQ and comp to taste, but I like to do extremes with both in this application.
     
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    I always use the comp on snare. SMACK!
     
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    do you guys have any favorite settings for drums on that 2500 comp? It's got a ton of options. I'm gonna mess with it on my next mix so if there's a specific mode you guys like I may start with that and of course tweak to taste...
     
  20. JeffTD

    JeffTD Senhor Testiculo

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    On snare I'm generally defaulting to attack at 30, release knob far left, loud/hard engaged, ratio at 6, threshold to taste. Tweak from there, mostly on ratio, threshold, thrust, and tone type. Toms generally get similar settings but with a faster attack and lower ratio.
     

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