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What are the basic techniques to marry the guitar and bass tracks?

Discussion in 'F.O.H.' started by X14Halo, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. X14Halo

    X14Halo Member

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    Just wondering what are the first things people do to mesh a guitar and bass track to make it feel "one".
     
  2. JasinElric

    JasinElric Straf Drah Studio

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    Track tight.
    HP/LP and strategic midrange cuts.
     
  3. vespiz

    vespiz Mixing!

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    Distortion on bass.
     
  4. Clark Kent

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    Lowcut guitars when the guitarist can't see it. ;)

    I use the same distortion on bass. So I might record bass through the same chain as the guitar so it blends nicely. :)
     
  5. JasinElric

    JasinElric Straf Drah Studio

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    You generally don't want the bass and guitars getting married. Go for a casual encounter type of relationship. You'll find the bass is a free spirit and likes to mingle with other elements, like the kick.
     
  6. LiberaScientia

    LiberaScientia Cat Dad

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    Right, then. You're getting sigged, motherfucker :lol:
     
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    Good monitoring. The ns10 rule for that bassguitar/guitar relation. Crystal clear highbass-mids. Easy as cake to make them compliment each other.
     
  8. lanky noob

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    this is an amazing analogy :L

    But on a serious note, why would you want it flirting with the kick? I always figured it'd be best to have them a separated as possible to keep a clean low end, or is this just my noobyness coming in to play :L

    EDIT: aside from the glue that comes together in mastering to bring the whole mix together
     
  9. Clark Kent

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    If your bass doesn't fit, it's most likely not because of a faulty bass track. Bass needs space. If bass sounds good with guitar muted then it's the guitar tracks that need to be worked on.
     
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    JasinElric Straf Drah Studio

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    Well, it's a mixer, and everyone needs to be mingling in some sense. It's good practice to keep the bass and kick from going all the way, but keeping them completely away from each other might make everyone else uncomfortable.


    haha I'm honored \m/
     
  11. Uros

    Uros Sonic Incision

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    ^^yep, so either good monitors+room, or good cans.

    For faster metal stuff, the key is to use distortion to a certain degree, as already said.
    What also really helps is a bass guitar setup with rather low action (and neck as flat as possible), with lighter stainless steel strings (since they are really bright), and picked or fingerpicked over the neck pickup, 'cause that way you'll get some good clankage out of it (i.e. the sound of strings bouncing off the fretboard) , and that is what really helps bass' audibility/its perceived volume and its relationship with the guitar in a dense metal mix.

    What is also good about this setup when comparing to a bass guitar set up with higher action and heavier strings, picked over bridge pickup (where tension is higher), is that this way notes die down faster which is what you want when mixing faster stuff, since in this case the bass is more about attack, and less about sustain.

    It should be said that this is exactly what you don't want when mixing some slower music (imo of course), where you want the exact opposite - fuller sounding bass, with more sustain and no clankage (because it really adds a lot of aggressiveness, which doesn't sound 'right' most of the time for some slower stuff). As always ymmv.
     
  12. lanky noob

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    Makes sense :p

    Also, you sir, are a sig machine
     
  13. ZanetheVocalist

    ZanetheVocalist Infamous Procrastinator

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    good shit.
     
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    +1 for distortion on bass
     

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