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What Bands/Songs Are Philosophical?

Discussion in 'The Philosopher' started by speed, Jun 4, 2007.

  1. speed

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    What bands are philosophical? Which bands write particularly philosophical and thought provoking lyrics? Are there any bands that evoke a philsophical mood or atmosphere with their philosophical lyrics?

    Does metal allow for such philosophically inspired bands more so than other genres of music? What about other genres (apart from classical)? Does one find other bands in other genres to be philosophical? Which ones? Which songs?

    Post any especially philosophical lyrics you enjoy, and why you like them; or even, what you think they mean. The purpose of this thread is to compare and discuss the philosophical intentions and power of each posted song.

    So please, everyone contribute, this will be fun and interesting.
     
  2. Seditious

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    Samael?
    "Lyrical theme(s): Discovery, spirituality (new)" - MetalArchives.com


    always liked these lines

    "The shelter of one thought is a jail for the mind"
    - Samael, Inch'Allah

    "I know how little is the value of that which has a price"
    - Samael, Rebellion

    "What we always fear and loathe becomes of us.
    Repay the visit of our loss, reset the marks again.
    The turning point, seems to be holding on."
    - Dark Tranquillity, The Same

    and a few favourite bars from The Pedestrian, Generation of Dead Beats:

    Once a cipher rat, now I'm looking for a publisher of dead beatitudes
    and parables as absurd as the world we've woven for ourselves
    out of worn down wonderment and wormwood,
    rewriting the masterpieces word by word.

    Listen carefully, this song's an empty shell on the shore of the worthless ones,
    my stab at simplifying beyond the hybrid of a smiling sambo and stony Buster Keaton.

    I'm a cycle myself still chasing the aesthetic
    with a hellhound on my trail and a rent bill in his mouth.


    Maybe I'll just make a living out of question marks.
    It's the recovering junkie poet slash alcoholic novelist part of us all,
    any number of crossroads for yonder children of divorce and bankruptcy court,
    hardly a great depression. We're all spoiled and mildy neurotic.
    By day this middle finger is a white flag
    signifying our apathetic middle-class course,


    When I wake up, I may find it all gone
    wondering if the glass just half is in an empty world.

    This pointlessness pulses through my dearth of faith,
    pointless in an imperfect circle without center.
    Each of us hypocrite preachers without flocks,
    every generation is lost and makes songs out of it
    but ours exiled from the search.
     
  3. Seditious

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    and a few favourite one-liners from favourite emcees...

    "To live alone one must be an animal or a god." - Jedi Mind Tricks

    "Anything is a graze compared to death" - The Solution

    "we learn to keep it inside or we learn not to care" - Sixtoo

    "carbon and water makes people and softdrinks." - Reaching Quiet

    "in a world of harsh thoughts, reactionary defensiveness and counter-intelligence what exactly is innocence?" - Saul Williams

    "Most of the greatest revolutionaries of our day and age are labelled terrorists" - El-P

    "It's sad, but proud or not, most your standards go down a notch
    When loneliness drinks at the bar you set too high." - Tonedeff

    "It's a struggle, between what you can give and what you want to." - Slug
     
  4. unearthly

    unearthly How dare you!!

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    Moonspell's some stuff.. Especially their old releases (like 'irreligious' album).. Fernando Ribeiro has studied philosophy at university that's why his lyrics are so deep..:

    ''we rise again to procreate to seal our fate''

    ''without hope we could not fear''

    ''given is now what love had taken''

    ''remembrance served in cups of sorrow and pride
    for all the eternities we'll still cry''
     
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    Try Cerrone Supernature, yes its sounds like a 70s disco classic but great lyrics, have to look it up tho I'm too tired:loco:
     
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    Well, not "The Philosopher"...
     
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    Woods of Ypres - 'The Pursuit of the Sun and Allure of the Earth' is their 2nd album title, the whole album is centred around that concept. Snippets don't do it justice imho, but I'll try anyway :)

    "I had built up all of my hopes and all of my plans
    Only to have them stand and cast shadows of humiliation
    Days would pass shadows would remain
    A reminder of all of my dreams
    I had to live humbled with
    The disappointment of what never came to be"


    "The sun was in my eyes
    It came through the trees
    Consumed all of my mind
    It was all I could see"


    "There is a comfort in longing for
    Something that's gone forever
    It shows how much that something meant to you
    When it was here"

    http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/woodsofypres/pursuitofthesunallureoftheearth.html
     
  9. Seditious

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    lol that reminds me of a line from the movie First Knight

    "A man who fears nothing is a man who loves nothing; and if you love nothing, what joy is there in your life?"
     
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    I like those Samael lyrics.

    I agree Dark Tranquillity has some decent lyrics too.

    The only metal lyricist of note in my opinion is Maynard from Tool, though even he has gone downhill of late. Most of the stuff on Aenima is brilliant.
     
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    System of a Down, too!!!
     
  12. unearthly

    unearthly How dare you!!

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    that album released in 1996(a year after 'First Knight') so it is possible that he had watch this movie and ifluenced.:D
     
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    (Unintentionally(?) very Heideggerian. Ahh, Obscura is the best album in metal in my opinion.)

    Gorguts - Nostalgia

    Latest being drowned
    In fictive degradation
    Coming depression revolved
    Around an Earth
    Nostalgia excludes the whole

    As spleen takes over me
    Resound, the echoes of my threnodies
    And then the fact of being
    Has no longer meaning
    The hymns of light
    They'll sing once I'll be gone

    Reverie appears cause
    Existence collapse

    Nostalgia
    Sadness shall obnuilate

    Sadness, feels, the desolated

    Desperately lost within
    Lament, pain and misery
    The more lies burden lives,
    The more I am dying
    The realm of light
    I'll reach once I'll...

    Latest feeling drowned
    In lucid contradiction
    Coming relation revolved
    Around a heart
    Nostalgia excludes the whole
     
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    StocktontoMalone The Cynical Realist

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    Although not as heavy as most of the bands here, I'd have to say Neil Peart of RUSH has had the most effect on me and my life.

    The Pass

    Proud swagger out of the schoolyard
    Waiting for the world's applause
    Rebel without a conscience
    Martyr without a cause

    Static on your frequency
    Electrical storm in your veins
    Raging at unreachable glory
    Straining at invisible chains

    And now you're trembling on a rocky ledge
    Staring down into a heartless sea
    Can't face life on a razor's edge
    Nothing's what you thought it would be

    All of us get lost in the darkness
    Dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    All of us do time in the gutter
    Dreamers turn to look at the cars
    Turn around and turn around and turn around
    Turn around and walk the razor's edge
    Don't turn your back
    And slam the door on me

    It's not as if this barricade
    Blocks the only road
    It's not as if you're all alone
    In wanting to explode

    Someone set a bad example
    Made surrender seem all right
    The act of a noble warrior
    Who lost the will to fight

    And now you're trembling on a rocky ledge
    Staring down into a heartless sea
    Done with life on a razor's edge
    Nothing's what you thought it would be

    No hero in your tragedy
    No daring in your escape
    No salutes for your surrender
    Nothing noble in your fate
    Christ, what have you done?




    Bravado


    If we burn our wings
    Flying too close to the sun
    If the moment of glory
    Is over before it's begun
    If the dream is won
    Though everything is lost
    We will pay the price,
    But we will not count the cost

    When the dust has cleared
    And victory denied
    A summit too lofty
    River a little too wide
    If we keep our pride
    Though paradise is lost
    We will pay the price,
    But we will not count the cost

    And if the music stops
    There's only the sound of the rain
    All the hope and glory
    All the sacrifice in vain
    [And] if love remains
    Though everything is lost
    We will pay the price,
    But we will not count the cost
     
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    Slayer - SOuth of Heaven
    Bathory - Twilight of the Gods
    Burzum - Dunkelheit
    Immortal - Pure Holocaust
    Carbonized - For the Security
     
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    Rush's lyrics are painfully obvious and cliche.
     
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    They're not as bad as Suck Chuldiner, the "Thomas Kinkade of Greeting Card Philosophy."
     
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    Probably I shouldn't bring Metallica into this discussion after all those wonderful examples of more intellectual philosophy, but I have always liked the way they phrase these lines:

    From Eye of the Beholder

    Many bands have some really crazy and nonsensical surreal lyrics. They can be very amusing on occasion.
    But what about Dio lyrics? He sings with such passion and the music is wonderful - but aren't those lyrics nothing but random?
    It seems a shame, and even verging on taking the piss of the genre itself. Am I unreasonable in that view?

    For some reason I have always kind of liked Steely Dan. Their lyrics are so funny and sound like they really could be quite philosophical at times - but I can't always understand any deeper meaning.

    These are interesting (to me anyway) lyrics about someone who feels uncomfortable in the society that he lives in

    And this:

    Chorus from: Only a Fool would Say That

    What I find particularly ironic about that song is the way it is set to a Latin beat - salsa I think. I would more expect this type of music to be advocating a world where we are all one and everything is free and not putting the idea down.
    Perhaps I have a weird sense of humour. So I was not sure I should even post this as most of you might think it is silly!
     
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    Love Steely Dan, Im not sure what their lyrics were about really, but definately about life, good songs. Seeing the Metallica lyrics reminded me of Fight The Power Public Enemy,a really strong song imo, whatever your political stance or musical preference, its a powerful tune.
     
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