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What do you think about Iconoclast?

Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by clafalc, Sep 6, 2011.

  1. AsoTamaki

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    I'm not exaggerating when I say that the release of that song back in 2007 was the single most disappointing moment in my life as a fan of music.
     
  2. Prismatic Sphere

    Prismatic Sphere We Carouse

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    Yes, indeed. the Beginning of the End.

    Let's hope not.
     
  3. Prog is King

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    Yes it is and my favorite PL song as well.
     
  4. schwinginbatman

    schwinginbatman It's shittay!

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    I think I just might be weird. I enjoy all SymX's stuff, aside from the first album which I've never heard. I loved Iconoclast, PL, and everything before it. Also, the live show was brilliant. Although I'll admit, Bastards of the Machine was cheesy.
     
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    Well ... You're ... Just ... Wrong! Just kidding :). Seriously, good for you that you really like PL and Iconoclast! Wish i did, too, but they seem to be going in a direction that's just not for me. As my wife's uncle used to say, 'that's why they make chocolate and vanilla'!
     
  6. ItsOjMang

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    That's almost exactly how I feel about Iconoclast, title track. Different tastes indeedy ;) Babylon is great too though.



    Honestly, I completely disagree that STWOF isn't great music, expecially for a live show. In fact, I was hoping that they would play Oculus Ex Inferni (why doesn't anybody ever mention that track BTW, its so awesome) and fade into STWOF. STWOF has to be one of the most epic things I've ever heard. One of my friends that I went to the show with a couple of weeks ago wanted to hear it soooo bad. I knew the setlist in advance but never said anything, expecially that it would be their last song. We were all lovin it, but I think he crapped himself when that came on. He has got awesome taste in music, Opeth, Meshuggah...and is an amazing drummer.

    Here is my point, and I'll use another one of my favorite bands as an example. I am yet to see Dream Theater live, but when I do, I hope they play mostly new stuff. And that's not just because I like it more, but it is new, fresh and IMO, their best work. For instance, I hear Take the Time or Metropolis (One of the best songs ever made, 4 the record) off of Images, and I am blown away. Then I hear The Count of Tuscany and Bridges In the Sky, and the same thing. But almost on another level. That's because of my theory of Progressive Metal overall; Musicians in these bands typically become better at what they do and produce a better quality of work as their careers progress (no pun intended).

    I am all about getting better at things as they move on. That is a big reason why I got into Prog, because I like to see things improve, and not just a random hit album every once in a while. And maybe they will put out an album showing how much they have improved in one aspect, for which I have another example.

    Opeth's Heritage is amazing. But it is all clean, jazzy and kind of funky. Amazing though when listened to thoroughly and appreciated, it is the near the best of its kind. The show for this tour was amazing too, not to mention. Even without Akerfelts beastly growls :devil: Did I mention my favorite album is MAYH? One of their heaviest... I can't wait to hear their next heavy album though...Watershed was so sweet...

    Dream Theater's A Draumatic Turn of Events supposetly sounds a lot like Images and Words. I understand, and have compared the two. But honestly, play anything off of ADTOE live before you play anything off of Images (except for Metropolis maybe) and I'd be one happy metal head.


    I'm so picky with my bands, especially metal because it is my favorite genre. Once I start digging them, I love them for who they are and what they create. It may not always be my favorite, but I learn to appreciate it a lot, and sometimes that evens turns into a new way of liking it.
     
  7. LavagesOfTime

    LavagesOfTime evangelist of Threshold

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    one of the things I noticed that has Iconoclast is Mike Pinnella soloing having just one cold keyboard sound, which is way too similiar to the guitar - I sometimes have to listen carefully to tell if it's guitar or keyboards! In the previous albums there was more variety - think of the keyboard solo on Fool's Paradise, for example.
     
  8. donKyle

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    They should.....set it free:D

    Also, I don't understand why they would close with Oculus. They should at least start with it, and end with Revelation. That would be cool.
     
  9. Detective Clarence Beauregard

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    He most likely used a more "cold" keyboard sound to fit the album's theme. If the keyboard parts in songs like Bastards or Heretic, for example, used harpsichord or piano sounds, it wouldn't sound as synthetic.
     
  10. donKyle

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    I will say this: When I first listened to Divine Wings, I couldn't get into it because I couldn't take the keyboard sound seriously! Obviously the album grew, and the title track is my favorite SX song.
     
  11. Prismatic Sphere

    Prismatic Sphere We Carouse

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    LOL, they close with that now? Man, fuck, are they losing it.
     
  12. Xiabei

    Xiabei New Metal Member

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    I just picked it up last night, and am enthralled. I think it's my favorite of theirs yet. Love the riffing, the pounding drums, the production. Thank the fates there are still bands that know how to rock.
     
  13. _Gentleman of_the Snow_

    _Gentleman of_the Snow_ Prog' Drummer

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    I'm glad you like it...
    but I will, sadly, not be thanking anybody this time around :(
     
  14. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    Yes, I too thank the Fates for showing SX how to rock.

    John, Jim, Joe, Frank, and Mark - we thank you
     
  15. Sauna

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    Yes. Another great album by a band that never fails to deliver.
     
  16. _Gentleman of_the Snow_

    _Gentleman of_the Snow_ Prog' Drummer

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    LOL.
     
  17. Sauna

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    You've puzzled me with your choice of names.

    John, Jim, (Victor), Joe and Steve - Pre No Exit-Fates
    Ray, Jim, Joe, Frank and Mark - Classic Fates
    John, Jim, Joey, Frank and Bobby - Arch/Matheos

    Any of these I could abide. John and Mark were never even in at the same time, right? Stop confusing me.
     
  18. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    I was just listing random members. Not really fair to Ray, Joey, and Victor - I should have put them, too.
     
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    The more I listen the more it's further cemented in the mind: Jason's the real star of the album. The production makes the drums a stand out presence at all times, and the drumming is obviously top notch.
     
  20. _Gentleman of_the Snow_

    _Gentleman of_the Snow_ Prog' Drummer

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    The drumming is too metal for my tastes. The drum solo-like section of Iconoclast is fantastic, and I'm not saying that the overall drum performance is bad by any means; it's not.
    V is Rullo's masterpiece.
     

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