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What hot cheese?

Discussion in 'Katatonia' started by Lisra, Jun 9, 2012.

  1. Lisra

    Lisra starlight spectre

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    So I was reading the Bravy Murder Day reissue booklet today again and I kept thinking about one thing.

    We all know Dan stepped down from producing the record because he had another vision than the lads, and good thing too because we all love BMD. What band, however, did he mention as a guide for their sound previously? Anders didn't name it, because "the hot cheese would melt the booklet in your very hands".

    So please, baseless speculations about what band Dan could have meant. :D

    It was German, presumably dommy/gothicky and very cheesy.

    My suggestion would be "Samsa's Traum" but they haven't been around before 1996, so... but they'd certainly fit the bill. Insanely cheesy, rather darkish.


    Any silly ideas to ease the waiting for the new record? :D
     
  2. Swany

    Swany Rider On The Bonez

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    Bravy Murder Day? :3

    Funny... just a couple of days ago I stumbled upon some old Samsas Traum songs I hadn't heard in about 6 years and was awkwardly happy about it. However, cannot agree on Samsas Traum at all... apart from that project not even having been around at that time. Cheesy? Yes! Some releases could certainly be considered as Gothic Schlager :loco: but soundwise I think it's a different approach. For some reason I have this thing stuck in my head that Mr. Kaschte was actually appreciating (older?) Katatonia and got inspired by them and/or related bands. Haven't I even seen him wearing some suspicious band shirt some time, too...? Hmmm... too long ago to remember properly but back in school I used to hang out with some folks who were really into Samsas Traum and similar/related projects.
    So if there would be any relation between THESE two bands... I'm 100% positive the sound guiding went the other way around!

    German, probably cheesy, darkish band from around BMD time... hummm... looks like a fun challenge to find out, somehow! XD
     
  3. °scarlet°

    °scarlet° i breathe to memories

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    yeah, don’t agree about samsas (not samsa’s :D) traum either, the very first albums are (were?) quite good, especially ‘oh luna mein’. now that i think of it, i haven’t listened to any songs of his since.. uhm… 2002 or so, but i really, really loved it back in time (not only for musical reasons, errr).
    the artwork of that album is also splendid.
    i'm also pretty certain i had read in some magazine back then that kaschte was indeed somehow inspired by (early) katatonia.

    have no clue about the rest :eek:
     
  4. Lisra

    Lisra starlight spectre

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    Brave Murder Day, of course. What was I typing.

    You two make good points..

    Where to look then? Germany has been full of gothic bands for a while, but they mostly sit around in the darkwave/electronic type scene like Umbra&Imago and whathaveyou. Probably not what was meant. More towards metal then..
     
  5. LifeDepraved

    LifeDepraved My soul got a crack

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    I'll bet on Atrocity. They went from a decent death metal group to hot cheesy gothic poop.
     
  6. Nightmare_Heaven

    Nightmare_Heaven Death Disco

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    Oh shit, good point. Hallucinations and Todessehnsucht are two of the BEST death metal albums ever, Todessehnsucht especially
     
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    I also wondered about this when I read the booklet. My initial thought was Crematory, but I am sure there are countless German bands that fit this description, even though most of them probably did not emerge until around the turn of the millennium.
     
  8. Lisra

    Lisra starlight spectre

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    Atrocity once did death metal? :eek:

    Something new every day.
     
  9. Swany

    Swany Rider On The Bonez

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    Sure... they just started to slowly "soften" from 1997 onwards. Might blame it on Liv Kristine? ;)
    But are they exactly cheesy these days? I don't know...
     
  10. MadTinus

    MadTinus Language enthusiast

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    First name that sprung to my mind was Bethlehem.. But they're not what one would call cheesy.
     
  11. Cerulean

    Cerulean Not very cerulean eh

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    Somewhat off-topic now: but it always amazes me when I compare Anathema's At One With the Earth with anything recent they've done :D
    Pure death metal!
     
  12. Lisra

    Lisra starlight spectre

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    A friend was clicking through my HD for music and asked why I did file anathema under metal. Hearing Serenades surprised him. :D
     
  13. i aint play this

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    Bethlehem used to be an incredible band. Suizid, Dictius & Dark Metal are ridiculously great albums. Don't care for what they've produced recently.
     
  14. Nightmare_Heaven

    Nightmare_Heaven Death Disco

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    Likewise, SUIZID especially is one of the best dark albums ever. everything after Profane.... is largely forgettable from what I've heard, especially the frankly crinegworthy decision to include that twat from Shining on vocals and completely butcher SUIZID with a terrible remake.
     
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    I just only got into Bethlehem after seeing them live at MDF. Got Dictius and just order Suizid. Solid stuff.
     
  16. Lisra

    Lisra starlight spectre

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    I think the enjoyment of Bethlehem is reduced a bit when you can understand German. But that's just me.
     

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