I don't agree completely with that one, because they are bands you have to say they're good, at least you have to respect them. Take legends as Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Pink Floyd... I'm getting mad if someone of me friends says that Anathema is bad (it's a tender spot for me too). And he doesn't realise his owns songs sucks. uke: ok mine are also not good but it's a beginning to something and... you have bad and bad. Bwah.