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Which SX songs do you actually consider classical/neo-classical?

Discussion in 'Symphony X (Unofficial)' started by Chairman Kaga, Dec 24, 2009.

  1. Chairman Kaga

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    personally, I would say...

    Masquerade
    The Damnation Game
    Of Sins and Shadows
    Out of the Ashes
    The Witching Hour
    The Divine Wings of Tragedy
    Smoke and Mirrors
    Sonata
    Church of the Machine
    The Relic
    Prelude
    Seven

    there are probably more that I forgot.
     
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    I can think of the last solo from Dressed to Kill which comes from some Bach piece, and A Fool's Paradise for the same reason.
     
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    In the Dragons Den solo is so neoclassical its almost annoying.
     
  4. Chairman Kaga

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    this reminds me of why I couldn't get into SX right away...

    A long time ago, I was looking for neo-classical bands... like bands where they have albums that are completely neo-classical (kind of like malmsteen).
    Some dude suggested that I try out Symphony X. And as I saw the band name, I thought for sure that it'd be a very neo-classical band. I was soon very disappointed after listening to some songs (happened to be the non-neoclassical ones). Then I didn't try listening to them again for a loooong time until someone suggested that I listen to Out Of The Ashes. Then I slowly got into them since. I learnt to enjoy the progressive side of the band soon after that.
     
  5. Wander

    Wander 10+2=6

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    Actually, I think that's indeed pretty much every truly neoclassical styled Symphony X song there.

    I think it's funny when I hear some people call Symphony X "neoclassical powermetal" although that's obviously only a part of their sound.
     
  6. Ryan M.

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    Smoke and Mirrors
    of Sins and Shadows
    Out of The Ashes
    Church of The Machine
    Damnation Game
    Dressed To Kill
    Seven
    Wicked
     
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    ...Wicked? Never thought of that one as neoclassical.
     
  8. razoredge

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    I think its all pretty classical in its approach, even if it doesnt comply with the Yngwie based description of "neo" which seems based on use of the harmonic minor but all classical did not concentrate on the harmonic minor. Then Neo implys new revival of something old. But thats all technical BS so by the Yngwie standard theres plenty of hints here and there throughout but more of classical in general, less cloning and far superior compositions as a whole.

    My opinion of course and I already got into the arguement about classical vrs new progressive metal bands being the new classical of our time along time ago... lol
     
  9. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    Playing part of a theme from a piece on an electric guitar does not make the song classical

    As for "neo classical" form what I have seen all that means is "guitar virtuoso" and has nothing to do with classical music either

    Also, SX is not power metal

    God, I hope not. I always hope there will be good music around in the future, and prog metal is garbage on the whole
     
  10. Kenneth R.

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    None are classical.
     
  11. razoredge

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    not sure what, if anything, you actually said here, relevent to the truth that is
     
  12. razoredge

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    classicals not even classical its was just the style of music of that time, overly white, dry and grooveless, powdered big hair wig crap


    :heh:
     
  13. Chairman Kaga

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    I think Wicked is more of a song that's based more around in a diminished key, in which is pretty close to the same thing as a harmonic minor.
     
  14. Kenneth R.

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    Gotta say I agree with Postulate.
     
  15. Postulate

    Postulate Have a nice day! :)

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    pffft
     
  16. Ryan M.

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    Yikes... this is a quite hard to tell kind of thing... Symphony X, Neo-classical, or prog/power. The answer? They are their own thing... i'll tell you what i think:

    Neo-classical, power-prog, SYMPHONIC, melodic, epic, hard, metal!
     
  17. Chairman Kaga

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    hard?

    I'm trying not to think of that the wrong way
     
  18. razoredge

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    you know... that is exactly what I thought you said... but thanks for the translation anyhow, at least I know for sure now.
     
  19. razoredge

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    OK to agree with someones taste but not their straight from Mars "facts". For example alot of the music you like is total garbage to me that Im not interested in. But no one will ever convince me that progressive is not well thought, difficult and intellegent music applying the same theorys and beyond that which the "classics" did... try all one may want.

    They werent even smart enough to develope a friggin drum kit but get a free pass for the timpony (which I dont even know how to spell). "Classical" rhythmic and groove qualities sucked and were kindergarten by todays standards, not to mention that they needed how many instruments to get the job done?

    Mozart and Bach wouldnt even know what to think of jazz, something I have a hard time doing if its radical enough.
     
  20. Kenneth R.

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    "by today's standards" that's the thing though, Steve.

    Today's standards were set by those classical guys. All of Western music was. Most of "prog" doesn't set the bar any higher, it just follows the rules
     

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