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Who has the most crappy computer???

Discussion in 'Dark Tranquillity' started by Naku ist krig, Jun 25, 2003.

  1. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    Not a question answered too easily, usually the most noisy and hardest to
    replace fans are the ones on the PSU (power supply to the layman), luckily
    the whole power supply is easy to replace with a silent one. Zalman makes
    very good silent PSUs, but there is other options as well, depends on who
    you ask and what they think is quiet of course.

    As for any other fans, rule of thumb is bigger and slower, moves the same
    amount of air, but is more silent and even if not totally silent, the noise is
    not as high pitched, so it's more tolerable, my fans made a low hum when
    they were on 12V.

    This brings me to another point, if you have normal case fans, they usually
    are not as critical as the one on PSU, Graphics card and CPU, so it's fairly
    easy to set them to 7 or even 5V to lower the noise.

    If you wanna be really adventurous you can even do this for the PSU fans,
    cos usually they don't heat up much, unless you have the absolute newest
    gaming stuff and things that eat up power like crazy. More power = more
    heat = more need for cooling.

    Anyway, easier idea is to check this site out, cos I could go on about
    this for ages ;)

    Especially check this list of recommended silent parts.
    And ask around in the forums too, there is a lot of people who know this
    stuff and you might get better answers than I can give.

    Usually it's easier to just build a new computer with silence in mind, rather
    than try to make the current one silent, cos you will most likely have to
    remove a lot of stuff from the old comp too.

    If you only change the fans, it might not work as well, but of course it's a
    start, so look at this info on fans, I have the Papst ones and they are quite
    good, but if you can get Panaflo's even better, unfortunately they are not
    available in sweden at least, I guess you could order from UK, but the Papst
    are a good replacement.

    Anyway, hope that huge post/rant gave you some ideas ;)
     
  2. rahvin

    rahvin keeper of the flame

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    wee, thanks. :) i'll check the sites out and re-read your post after seeing some of the available material.
     
  3. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    Well, um, I don't wanna think about the money, all together I think
    it would be around 40k SEK mark, but of course my monitor is about
    10k of that... but a lot of money.
    Time, well, a lot of that too, since I have now had 3 cases for the comp,
    2 motherboards, 3 sets of HDDs, 4 graphics cards, 2 sound cards, 2 PSUs,
    2 heatsink/fans for the CPU and so on and so on. I don't actually think
    there is any single part in the comp that I had in the original :eek:
     
  4. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    I just realized what you meant by the processor fan thing, you were
    talking about the heatsink/fan combo, so I will give you some idea here.

    Ok, of course this depends on the processor you have, but I will
    show you what I have on mine, I have an P4 processor using the 478
    socket, pretty much the best heatsink you can have for it, is this
    Zalman made giant.

    Full heatsink list here.

    The reason it is good is cos it's huge and heavy (tho I have the lighter
    version) and it has a seperate fan, which makes it easy to swap it for a
    bigger and even quieter fan, like I did.
    Normally this comes with a 9.2cm fan, which is real quiet too, but I figured
    that since it's easy to change, I get a 12cm fan and run it with less V and
    still get the same cooling effect.

    Basicly with the heatsink you should go with one you can swap the fan on
    and get the biggest heatsink you can, cos it means it needs less airflow to
    keep it cool, which means less noise since you can run the fan with less V.

    Another good brand for heatsinks is Alpha (or Alphatech) as they make very
    heavy heatsinks, even if smaller than the Zalman "flowers".
    Basicly this is all up to which processor you have, as some of them produce
    more heat, like the AMD ones. I could pretty much run mine without the fan
    as the backfan of my case is quite close to my heatsink and I am not
    overclocking or anything like that, of course the biggest help is the huge
    heatsink.

    As you can see this is not an easy thing to answer, there is so many things
    that affect it and I haven't even touched on the overall case airflow, which
    is another thing that affects the heat and therefore the noise level of the
    case.
     
  5. IMonochromatic

    IMonochromatic Operation Inebriation

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    If you need additional help with fans or PC cooling, you might wanna check out http://www.overclockers.com

    I'm a member of their boards (Breadfan) and we'll help anyone out, newbie or not.

    SilentPCReview is cool too...actually they posted one of my older articles awhile back...I think it was my silent AthlonXP cooling article.

    Right now I'm running a Zalman CNPS7000Cu which is pretty quiet (and big!). But the best combo right now for a quiet system is a nice Thermalright heatsink (SLK900a) and something like an Enermax adjustable 80mm fan. Put one of those in the PSU too, and maybe one as a case fan, and you'll still have silence.

    Good place to shop for people in the US is http://www.newegg.com

    As for my computer, I'm running an AthlonXP 1800 w/ 512mb of RAM dual booting Win2k and Redhat9. Kinda behind the curve b/c money is tight while I finish up university.

    Here's my lowly webserver: That was when I had an ASUS mobo in it, now it's got a Shuttle board w/ an 800mhz duron running Redhat9...

    [​IMG]

    Here's my main system with my dog poppin' his head up:

    [​IMG]

    My best advice for people wanting a better computer is to think about what you use it for. If you don't game, you don't need a 300 dollar video card. If you spend a lot of time at your machine, don't blow all your money on hardware just to use the 14" monitor from your old 486. Get dual monitors 20" monitors and a nice chair :)
     
  6. Thanatos

    Thanatos payaso

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    post more pics of the dog :D
     
  7. Gregor

    Gregor Prikazy

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    Mines steam powered.
     
  8. IMonochromatic

    IMonochromatic Operation Inebriation

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    Here ya go:

    [​IMG]

    Oh, and to keep on topic, I still have a working TI 94a, had a 300 baud modem that had a speaker and mic...you'd set the phone receiver on top and hope for the best!

    [​IMG]

    Perhaps it's time for a pets thread too.
     
  9. Dark_Jester

    Dark_Jester Unrepentant sentient

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    IMonochromatic: That is a NICE system :D
     
  10. Salamurhaaja

    Salamurhaaja Member

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    @IMonochromatic
    Cool, more hardware geeks (I mean that in the good way) here is great :)
    Are those speakers Logitech Z-640s? I just got mine setup on the console,
    sweet sounds :)
    Looks like a nice setup, tho I do HATE the fucking lights, I hate even the
    power leds on all my stuff... but then I sleep in the same room with all this
    stuff.
     
  11. IMonochromatic

    IMonochromatic Operation Inebriation

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    Yup those are Z-640's. Best 5.1's you can buy for $65 IMHO. One of these days I'm gonna save up for the THX Z-680's...500watts :) But pricey.

    I like the lights, when I turn everything else off here the room glows nicely...half blue, have red. I had a comp in my room for a while, but never did a light in it for the same reasons you state -- I like it pitch black when I try to sleep.

    I'm kinda slow in doing it, but I've been modding an old Sun SparcII workstation into a coffee table/jukebox...I'll hook it up to my big stereo and have quick access to my dt collection. :D
     
  12. Delirious

    Delirious ensammast i sverige.

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    got a new, big monitor. for free. hooray. :D
     
  13. Malaclypse

    Malaclypse Active Member

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    Gregor Prikazy

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    I have rats in wheels, running around in the heat, sweating and creating steam. It's simply amazing.
     
  15. MagSec4

    MagSec4 .:..::.: :.::..:.

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    hmm what speed and year model is your mother-rat?
    Does it come with a serial port accelerator?
    The one I used to have crashed on me a couple of times.. one of them got its tail caught in the floppy drive for being a horny bastard.
    I'm thinking of upgrading to the ratpxv300v4.03.. It's a little noisier and it smells like unholy shit, but it doesn't require nutritional user input and thus has no annoying cheese-drive
     
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    xenophobe Active Member

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    I got a big new monitor! :hotjump:

    But it wasn't for free. :bah:
     
  17. Thanatos

    Thanatos payaso

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    *bump* I decided my old pentium 3 was way too crappy so I got this:

    P4 3.4ghz
    1gb dual channel 533mhz DDR2 ram
    Radeon x800pro
    160gb hard drive
    audigy 2
     
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    I don't know what my computer specs are, but i know its 4 years old, and it can't run Doom 3.
     
  19. Taliesin

    Taliesin Immaturity Aside

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    I ordered my computer 3 months ago.. an Athlon 64 3000, 1gig of 400MHz Ram, Radeon 9800Pro, brandnew case with a BeQuiet PSU and 5 additional fans... first time I switch it on, the PSU ignites the mainboard. Yay. I only hope the CPU and Ram are still intact so that I can finally enjoy a new level of geekhood when the repaired mainboard arrives.
    And no, I dont wanna know what the parts would be worth alltogether if I had ordered now and not 3 months back! :(
     
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    Taliesin Immaturity Aside

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    Replacing the PSU was the first thing I did actually. But by then the mainboard had already suffered great damage so that the next 2 PSU's both suffered wildest short-circuits and ignited themselves. Inside my PC, one mainboard and 3 PSU's have died...
     

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