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Discussion in 'Dark Tranquillity' started by Steve, Apr 24, 2003.
Have you ever heard of "change"? In Flames are still good. THey just sound diferent.
I'm ok with it being different, the thing i'm not ok with is the sounding-like-random-crap part.
That's fine if you think they are crap. But it doesn't mean they ARE crap by definition.
there are good changes and bad changes. latest in flames "sound" is much worse than the previous ones, imo. it's all a matter of tastes.
Cool, send your application to IF fast, they need you for the new album
Ooh In Flames is Götebork(bork) so show some respect, du jävlas! *repeats self* *siiiigh* Bork?
you people seem to pin point his clean vocals on R2R...
why? No one ever thinks that they did it on purpose with his clean vocals... Anders said in an interview there are certain restrictions when creating music with In Flames... but with his side-project Passenger, they could do whatever they want...
Anders sings and screams really well on Passenger... Passenger is an excellent CD... If you compare Stanne and Friden now... Friden is up there with Stanne on the Clean vocals still but not by much Stanne has a very wide range with his clean vocals but Friden has a wide range just not as much as Stanne.
You people say he can't write decent lyrics... actually he can... they're pretty good actually if you actually take time to analyze the lyrics and listen to it rite you'll see...
now i know his lyrical writting abilities arent as good as Sundin's, for example, his arent as complex.. yes ill agree but his lyrics are still really good tho
the vocals on R2R are because of the "dirty" production... it was to create a "heavy" like atmosphere with melody and rough vocals to try to appeal to other audiences...
In Flames were willing to change and make a difference in the metal genre... Dark Tranquillity hasnt really tried changing their sound... except for the Projector, but then they tried going back to a similar sound of the past...
In Flames are trying to change the metal genre, to be the leaders, to be the ones that make a difference and show the world there is great music beyond what you regularly see on MTV/MuchMusic... they are the ones that are trying to open up the underground metal scene to the world and some of you people flame them for even trying... its just a shame... even if you dont like what they create, you should still respect what they are trying to do... they have influenced so many people, so many bands and have influenced people to create bands and create music they love to listen to...
A thing I like about D.T. is that they're keeping the Classic Old School Gothenburg Style alive... DT and IF are great bands... they're both my favourites... I respect everthing they do... especially In Flames for trying new things with their music... at least they have guts to try something new and show the public what they can create with it
\m/ IN FLAMES AND DARK TRANQUILLITY \m/
I totally agree. This In Flames/R2R argument reminds me way too much about the Metallica bashing of the last 5 years.
The difference between In Flames and Metallica, Daniel is a great drummer and a nice guy, but Lars is a good drummer and a flaming asshole. And a lot of other stuff, but this is my main point now.
You know, I really have nothing to add to this discussion, but I have to say this, and I didn't feel like making a new topic. I love Anders vocals, and In flames is my favorite band, with DT right behind them. But I listened to Hedon today, and GODDAMN, Anders sounds "eviler" in those ten seconds he's in the song then on anything he's ever done with In Flames. Keep in Mind, I said "eviler" not better
Anders' vocals are in Hedon?!
What words is he singing there?
"HEDON, HEDON! HEDON, HEDON!"
Never knew that...
Hes one of my favorite vocalists still, rtr i thought was alright for vocals, his best is on colony
Why is it, that in these things, it's always the deaf people who write
Make that deaf and blind.
(Ghhh, they still fucked up the NP)
i met anders 2 days ago and he is such a fucking cool dude. I talked with him for a while and hes really cool.
Who cares, why would you even bother mentioning that no talent
assclown in this thread is beyond human understanding.
@Wazoo, plfffffft & Connected: AMEN!
After hearing Passanger, it's clear Anders can handle vocal duties for In Flames quite competently.
Nobody's arguing that Staane's the better vocalist, but attacks on Anders are pretty stupid just because his voice isn't up to par on R2R. Actually, I'm rather enjoying that album, it sunk in and I really dig it, but it's no Coloy or Jester Race naturally.