http://www.morehouse.edu/facstaff/nnobis/papers/ed.html A philosopher should be like a dog with a bone. They grab hold of the problem and won't let go. I am put off from arguing this way because I used to make my father really angry taking apart his argument, trying to show him what it is that he seems to be saying and why it seems flawed to me and so on. I am tempted do this in various forums that I frequent, but fear that it is taken as being offensive to the person I am debating with. I appreciate it if someone would debate with me in that way, just so long as they are not constantly playing "devil's advocate" as that really is annoying! What do you all think? I am not sure which, but at least one of the ancient philosophers really annoyed those he was debating with - probably Socrates did at least.