http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/huntress-virtual-yard-sale-for-mayhem-festival-tour-support I've said this a few times before, but here's a pretty apt illustration of exactly why you don't see Primal Fear or Hammerfall or Edguy doing this kind of a tour. Here's an American band playing Mayhem Fest this summer doing an indiegogo campaign to get a bus. Clearly the label isn't willing to pay tour support, and the tour pays little to no money. So a European band like the ones I mentioned that does big theaters in Europe and only does a few hundred or so here headlining - this is why. When they headline these tours, they usually get paid enough that after everything is said and done, they can pack up and go home and break even. It's a vacation, maybe they each took home a couple hundred bucks from that vacation. They are in their 40's or even 50's, and they can't afford to be 30 grand in debt or whatever just for "long term exposure". And while it's cool to see these bands doing crowd funding campaigns to get the fans to really help the bands on a 1 to 1 level, I don't expect this to be a regular thing - or more to the point - a thing that Euro bands will participate in. Agents aren't going to want to risk that, especially bigtime ones like the guy that puts together Mayhem Fest or whatever and have additional sponsors and brands to manage. What u think bros?