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https://www.facebook.com/groups/577756049000363/ this seems to be the place nowadays. not trying to kill a forum or anything, just trying to spread the wealth and extend an olive branch to other guys. there's a lot of sneapers on there as well. it's a pretty incredible place.

been doing this band for a while, and we're starting make some headway. put out a record ourselves and its been doing pretty well. thought i'd share with this community that i have come to love. http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/how_to_disappear_completely