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Anyone watch Bill Maher last night? He had a Harvard Professor who basically said that our current healthcare system can't support itself much longer, especially with the economy the way it is. And that we have one of the most expensive and least effective systems in the world. A single pay Govt plan would actually be better for our economy.
Least effective?
Single pay system better? Probably not.
Academics like to shit up their own ass with theories and solutions that have never been implemented simply based on simple S/D models that "should help recessed economies", though completely disregarding situational economics and things called variables.
As Gadlor pointed out, you are definitely an intelligent dude, so don't take this as anything more than friendly fisticuffs my good man.
Well certainly one of. The WHO ranks us at like 36 or something for healthcare and 50 for life-expectancy.
Can you prove it? Plenty of statistics and research show that in the long run it is indeed cheaper to have a socialized system.
I'm not sure what you mean here... Socialized medicine has never been implemented? And certainly, I'd trust ANYTHING coming out of academia than what's on TV or in the newspapers or whatever.
Out of 195 countries total. 36'th means top 20% . Our life expectancy is poor because we are, by a long stretch, the fattest country on the globe. Even being the fattest we are still in the top 1/4.
It would be much cheaper in the long run with the single pay gov't run system, but that is not a viable solution right now. You don't try to help a recessed economy (an economy that needs more jobs and more spending) by destroying an entire industry which 1) significantly increases already record high unemployment rates 2) drives down spending and 3) makes a mess of benefits, which is a huge issue within itself.
Again, good idea, bad time. It's not stupid to aim for a socialized system in the long run, but right now saying that that is the answer is pretty "ignorant politician" of whichever dude said it. Don't shoe it in just because, "well it's cheaper and it works for Sweden!"
Of those 195 countries, how many of those are truly first-world countries? Not many.
Obesity is part of our life-expectancy issue, in fact I'll even go as far to say that it's the principal reason for this. However, you can bet your ass that a good chunk also has to do with A) Big Pharma overmedicating us, and B) insurance companies not giving a fuck about whether we live or die.
However, our current state of affairs will greatly influence our obesity problems. If we can regulate healthcare and provide a good system, the next logical step would be to regulate food companies and restaurants (even more so) so we don't eat dogshit. I hate to bring up Sweden again, but they are a great example of how this shit works. They regulate their meats, to a point where Mayhem couldn't even bring in prop pig heads for a gig, so that the food they eat is generally healthier.
The argument I heard, was that our current healthcare system is so expensive as it is that it could further cripple our economy at this state. So even if you are right it sounds like we'd be fucked either way.
Well as I said in an earlier statement, a part of me agrees with this I guess. I do think that Obama should have lowered unemployment a bit before fo
cusing on healthcare, but the fact is simply that if it's not taken care of now, it might never be taken care of.
And now if you'll excuse me, I have to call Blockbuster Online customer service and yell at them for sending me a totally broken copy of Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust and consider switching to Netflix.
Now I'm by no means any sort of expert or anything, and I have absolutely nothing solid to back me up, but as far as I can recall from Fast Food Nation and some guest I saw on Bill Maher whose name I forget, there's already a hell of a lot of food industry regulation, and it's pretty much the cause of a lot of unhealthy food being pushed on us. I'm not saying that all government regulation causes food quality to decrease or anything like that, but rather that there's more money to be made for Congressmen by bowing down to lobbyists from the Shitty Food Industry (or more specifically, corn, hence corn syrup is in everything). I can't help but think the real change in the food industry is gonna have to come from people making responsible choices about what they put inside them (lol), and I don't think that is gonna happen until there's a positive shift in the economy, since eating crap is often easier, more convenient, and cheaper than eating healthy.However, our current state of affairs will greatly influence our obesity problems. If we can regulate healthcare and provide a good system, the next logical step would be to regulate food companies and restaurants (even more so) so we don't eat dogshit. I hate to bring up Sweden again, but they are a great example of how this shit works. They regulate their meats, to a point where Mayhem couldn't even bring in prop pig heads for a gig, so that the food they eat is generally healthier.
The Illuminati intentionally caused the financial crisis by pushing subprime mortgages on banks so they could socialize everything. Duh.This forum lacks angry bible-beating conspiracy theorizing neocons. Anyone want to volunteer?
Now I'm by no means any sort of expert or anything, and I have absolutely nothing solid to back me up, but as far as I can recall from Fast Food Nation and some guest I saw on Bill Maher whose name I forget, there's already a hell of a lot of food industry regulation, and it's pretty much the cause of a lot of unhealthy food being pushed on us. I'm not saying that all government regulation causes food quality to decrease or anything like that, but rather that there's more money to be made for Congressmen by bowing down to lobbyists from the Shitty Food Industry (or more specifically, corn, hence corn syrup is in everything). I can't help but think the real change in the food industry is gonna have to come from people making responsible choices about what they put inside them (lol), and I don't think that is gonna happen until there's a positive shift in the economy, since eating crap is often easier, more convenient, and cheaper than eating healthy.
God caused the financial crisis by pushing subprime mortgages on banks because we don't kill enuff fagz.