The Official Hookah Thread!

TheWinterSnow

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This is a topic that I haven't seen around these parts. As many of us around the thread smoke both tobacco and weed, How many of you smoke Shisha?

Post your hookahs, and talk about your favorite flavors

Smoking some Hookah now

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*make note of my pocket pipe*

Some Facts:

- Hookah is generally accepted and partaken by people who do not smoke tobacco are marijuana.
- Smoking is generally a social past-time after a larger meal at the end of the day, this is what the Arab culture did as families would gather into a room and smoke hookah after a large meal. today this same culture is seen in the young adult demographic mostly through Europe and the US during a rise in popularity over the past few years.
- Shisha contains no tar. It is baked to a temperature of usually 280F-300F which is much lower than the temperature needed to burn the tobacco and create tar and other cancer causing agents.
- Shisha contains .005% nicotine and 0g tar, while a single cigarette contains 10-15% nicotine and 5% tar.
- Shisha is a type of tobacco similar to pipe tobacco that is treated with flavored molasses. The smoke that is created is the vapors of flavor that are "cooked" off from the shisha.
- The smoke is much thicker than other types of tobacco creating a fun and easier way to blow smoke rings.
- The smoke is inhaled similarly to that of a pipe or bong, the user takes a deep inhale and stops when they feel they have enough
- As the smoke is not nearly as harsh as cigarettes, it is difficult to feel the inhalation of the smoke, allowing much larger amounts of smoke to be inhaled, this is why the smoke is so thick.
- Because Shisha contains no tar, it does not make yourself, or your house/furniture smell musky and like smoke. The room will generally smell like fruity incests were burned but dissipates within a half hour or so, leaving no signs that shisha was ever smoked.
- Smoking still has its dangers. There are some amounts of tar, however very very trace amounts that is resulted from hitting the hookah too hard and getting th tar from the burning charcoals. The charcoals also pose a health thread as you are still inhaling Carbon Monoxide. While Carbon Monoxide will not kill you during a hookah session, it can have negative short term and long term effects.
- Excessive Carbon Monoxide comes from hitting the hookah too hard, and continuing to smoke after the Shisha has fully burned, afterwards the Shisha will actually start to combust and create heavy amounts of Carbon Monoxide, making you feel ill, inducing headache and possibly feeling faint and or fainting. If you ever notice that the smoke is getting thin after a good 30+ minutes session and the smoke is beginning to hit hard, its usually done anymore is not good as it will make you sick.
- Get good charcoals, the cheaper stuff, not only tastes bad, but can have large amounts of tar and Carbon Monoxide, the more expensive the charcoal, the better the taste the longer lasting the smoke, and the less tar and carbon monoxide you will get.

*NOTE*: There have been no substantially backed studies involving smoking Shisha, however most health sites will claim radical facts (or claim facts "based on" studies, which are frauds) like Shisha contains 200 time more nicotine per gram than combusted tobacco and actually has worse carcinogens in it than tobacco, all on the premise that a session of hookah will give you as much smoke as 4 packs of cigarettes. The density of smoke does not determine the danger. Smoke of the places stating myths about Shisha have been speculated tobacco companies trying to make Shisha sound worse for your health as the rising popularity of Hookah has been on the rise the past few years and the tobacco companies are getting hit pretty hard by it.

Some myths floating around:

- Shisha has 100-200 time more tar per gram than tobacco
- Shisha produces more smoke than a cigarette so it is more harmful
- Shisha has more cancer causing agents in it than tobacco
- One Session can have as much smoke as 4 packs of cigarettes, therefore, smoking a bowl is just as bad as smoking 4 packs of cigarettes.
- And many places stating these facts will cite their sources as "studies done by..." There have been NO documented studies of Shisha ever and most doctors will actually say, "we don't know much about hookah, however since you are getting some amounts of carbon monoxide, we can't say that it isn't detrimental to your health and because of its nature we can not say that it is safer than cigarettes because some people might use that as a reason to fall back on what potentially could harm them, although we have no facts on this"

You don't have to take my word for it about nay of these facts, look them up yourself, make your own judgement, but remember, just because it is smoke does not mean its harmful. I mean even some amounts of carbon monoxide and other carcinogens are absorbed into your house when you have a fire going, some thing goes with standing over a BBQ, this is why grills say "DO NOT USE INDOORS". Now I am not saying that Hookah is any safer than standing over a BBQ or having a fire, but it just makes you think.
 
big hookah fan here!
maybe we can make some kind of secret shisha market place :D
it's so fucking hard to get good shisha here in germany.
they enforced a law which prohibits more than 5% moisture,
and we all know what this means...yeah,
german people are forced to smoke dried up camel shit:(

cheers
S.

 
big shisha fan here!
maybe we can make some kind of secret shisha market place :D
it's so fucking hard to get good shisha here in germany.
they enforced a law which prohibits more than 5% moisture,
and we all know what this means...yeah,
german people are forced to smoke dried up camel shit:(

cheers
S.

The cheep shit over hear is so moist its actually dripping, it leaks into the vase and you get a good amount of juices in the smoke. Starbuzz is the high end expansive shit, 20 USD per 250g weight. It actually looks like flakes of wax but takes so good.

Why are the laws so fucked up in Germany?
 
@TheWinterSnow
starbuzz...that's what all german hookah fans are dreaming of!:D
the al fakher shisha is also very nice but it's really hard to get it here.
i pay 20€ for 250g at the moment but prices are increasing every day.

the 5% shit...they cathegorized shisha as pipe tobacco and
pipe tobacco needs to have less than 5% moisture.
that's just so fucking stupid, becausse shisha is definetely NOT pipe tobacco.
i hate this country!

cheers
S.
 
@soultrash: NOICE FOOKING HOOKAH MANG!!! I am smoking Fantasia at the moment as that is what my drummer bought. Its good, a bit too moist, some of the flavors are really dry and therefore give a much cleaner smoke than the overmoist satuated shit, kind of depends on your storing conditions.

All Fuck Her? sound like a fucked up southern way to say, I'll fuck her! pretty funny.

Your laws are fucked, I though Germans were supposed to be cool, but no your government has to accidentally Hitler everything, including broadcasting frequencies (wireless/walkies), how much Thujone can be in Absynth. You guys are almost as bad as Australia :heh:

so far my favorites are grape and raspberry and caramel apple, I should definitely mix grape and raspberry. Would like to try pineapple, peach, and watermelon though I hear you can barely taste the watermelon. I am also curious to try out unflavored Shisha.
 
@soultrash: NOICE FOOKING HOOKAH MANG!!! I am smoking Fantasia at the moment as that is what my drummer bought. Its good, a bit too moist, some of the flavors are really dry and therefore give a much cleaner smoke than the overmoist satuated shit, kind of depends on your storing conditions.

All Fuck Her? sound like a fucked up southern way to say, I'll fuck her! pretty funny.

Your laws are fucked, I though Germans were supposed to be cool, but no your government has to accidentally Hitler everything, including broadcasting frequencies (wireless/walkies), how much Thujone can be in Absynth. You guys are almost as bad as Australia :heh:

so far my favorites are grape and raspberry and caramel apple, I should definitely mix grape and raspberry. Would like to try pineapple, peach, and watermelon though I hear you can barely taste the watermelon. I am also curious to try out unflavored Shisha.

thanks! :)
i used to have 4 or 5 bad ones before i finally bought the MYA.

yeah, germany is really poor in a few things.
another example. if i order some fantasia or starbuzz in the USA
and "get caught" by the customs i have to pay the shisha, 300% of the shisha price, plus 19% value added tax. :bah:

i like fruity shisha the most, apple, watermelon, lemon, grape etc.
can't stand all the chocolate, cream, coconut, weird ass flavours :D

damn i want to try some fantasia stuff.
the best shsha i had so far is "all fuck her"
black grape and havanna rapsberry.

cheers
S.
 
Get with it Gareth, you're missing out!

I'm a big fan of pineapple. There is a Lebanese place near me with outdoor music, food, hookah in the summer time. Good times. Drink, smoke, eat! They actually put a chunk of pine apple surrounding the...errr what's it called, chamber I guess? Smells/tastes fucking awesome.

-Joe
 
I've never used a hookah either; do you actually inhale it, or just chamber it in your mouth like a cigar?
 
inhaling smoke of any kind in my lungs just sounds terrible to me...

mind you i smoked cigs for a few years, and pot and hash as well.
 
inhaling smoke of any kind in my lungs just sounds terrible to me...

mind you i smoked cigs for a few years, and pot and hash as well.

personal choice murph.
inhalation of smoke into my lungs sounds quite nice about now, maybe i should run to the store :D