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[ProgMetalFan]

It's really great to see so many people getting into Madsword!

 

[ProgMetalFan]

These are my favorite finds for this year and highly recommended...

Disillusion
Mars Volta
7 for 4
MCM

I'm also glad to see some people have foundout about Madsword...Anyone like Mekong Delta?

Can you please describe the 3 non-Mars Volta bands?

I am curious about Mekong Delta... I heard some of there stuff awhile back.

 

[dargormudshark]

Madsword is freakin' awesome!

 

[Knight of the Templar]

Genesis.

Yeah. I mean Genesis. The old band. If you haven't heard them, go listen. If you don't like them, you suck. (no, that last one is a joke...)

 

[dargormudshark]

I think Genesis is a given if you do not like Genesis you are not a true prog fan.

 

[Yngvai X]

Can you please describe the 3 non-Mars Volta bands?

I am curious about Mekong Delta... I heard some of there stuff awhile back.

Mekong Delta is awsome...and Im not just saying that because The Man (aka Peavy Wagner) was on their first two albums.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Here is a review of Disillusion. http://www.digitalmetal.com/reviews.asp?cid=3317

7 for 4 have two discs out that are instrumental only with the exception of one track on each. They are lead by the last Siege Even guitarist Wolfgang Zenk. Their disc Contact is a fusion of rock,jazz and funk while their second disc Time has a latin,country and metal flavor.

MCM is an intrumental only disc that smokes. The band members are Alex Masi (guitars), Randy Coven (basses), and John Macaluso (drums).

 

[turke]

thanks to the people who introduced me "Madsword". Where were you before ?

 

[Knight of the Templar]

I think Genesis is a given if you do not like Genesis you are not a true prog fan.

I am not just talking about the "prog" era, by the way...

 

[dargormudshark]

I am not just talking about the "prog" era, by the way...

who says "We can't Dance" isn't prog

Phil Collins is Satan!

 

[MorphineChild205]

I discovered this really cool band from Milwaukee, WI called The Ottoman Empire. They're a progressive power metal band with a female singer. The vocals are mostly clean, and the lead guitarist and drummer are amazing! Check out their EP "Curse of the Sun"...you should find info on their site.

http://www.theottomanempire.net/main.php

 

[theodyssey]

Susperia is bullshit.

Oh... good come back.

Seriosuly, what do you expect me to do, cry about it?

And in all seriousness, i've only seen 1 or 2 bands live that were worse than Mars Volta, and that's not just because i don't like MV. That's because they really sucked a nut live. By the way this is something called an opinion.


In case you are too lazy, from www.dictionary.com

o·pin·ion ([font=verdana, sans-serif] P [/font]) Pronunciation Key (

-p

n

y

n)
n.

1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: “The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law. A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin op

ni

, op

ni

n-, from op

n

r

, to think.]

Synonyms: opinion, view, sentiment, feeling, belief, conviction, persuasion
These nouns signify something a person believes or accepts as being sound or true. Opinion is applicable to a judgment based on grounds insufficient to rule out the possibility of dispute: “A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own, have rendered the great Government of the United States helpless and contemptible” (Woodrow Wilson). View stresses individuality of outlook: “My view is... that freedom of speech means that you shall not do something to people either for the views they have or the views they express” (Hugo L. Black). Sentiment and especially feeling stress the role of emotion as a determinant: “If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences... reason is of no use to us” (George Washington). “There needs protection... against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling” (John Stuart Mill). A belief is a conclusion to which one subscribes strongly: “Our belief in any particular natural law cannot have a safer basis than our unsuccessful critical attempts to refute it” (Karl Popper). Conviction is belief that excludes doubt: “the editor's own conviction of what, whether interesting or only important, is in the public interest” (Walter Lippmann). Persuasion applies to a confidently held opinion: “He had a strong persuasion that Likeman was wrong” (H.G. Wells).​

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opinion see form an opinion; matter of opinion.




Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine Ammer.
Copyright © 1997 by The Christine Ammer 1992 Trust. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.



opinion
A Certified Public Accountant's written attestation as to the fairness of presentation of financial statements. Anything other than an opinion that the statements have been presented fairly is a matter of serious concern to investors. Also called [font=arial,sans-serif]accountant's opinion[/font][font=arial,sans-serif], [/font][font=arial,sans-serif]auditor opinion[/font]. See also adverse opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]clean opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]disclaimer of opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]qualified opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]subject to opinion.




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Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
1 a : a belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a formal expression of a judgment or appraisal by an expert —see also opinion testimony at TESTIMONY —compare FACT
2 a : advice or evaluation regarding the legal issues involved in a situation given by an attorney to a client <an opinion of title> called also legal opinion —see also opinion letter at LETTER 1 b : an advisory opinion issued by an authorized public official (as an attorney general) or a recognized body (as the American Bar Association)
3 a : the formal written expression by a court or judge of the reasons and principles of law upon which the decision in a case is based —compare HOLDING, JUDGMENT, RULING advisory opinion
: a nonbinding opinion or evaluation of a court or other judicial or quasi-judicial authority or body regarding the effect of the law on a situation that does not present an actual controversy between parties <to answer questions which were not brought before this Court would be to issue an advisory opinion —JBC of Wyoming Corporation v. City of Cheyenne, 843 Pacific Reporter, Second Series 1190 (1992)>
NOTE: Advisory opinions are issued esp. by administrative agencies and by some state courts. Federal courts are constrained by the U.S. Constitution to deciding only cases or controversies and cannot issue advisory opinions.
concurring opinion
: an opinion by a judge who agrees with the result in a case but not necessarily with the reasoning used to reach it
dissenting opinion
: an opinion by a judge who disagrees with the result in a case
majority opinion
: an opinion in a case that is written by one judge and in which a majority of the judges on the court join
memorandum opinion
1 : a brief opinion of a court that announces the result of a case without extensive discussion and that is usually unpublished and cannot be cited as precedent
2 : an opinion of the U.S. Tax Court that is ordered not to be published but that is authoritative as precedent
3 a : an opinion of a court that sets forth the court's views or intended decision in a case but does not constitute the judgment b : an opinion of a court or judge setting forth the conclusions and findings and containing or constituting the actual order, judgment, or decree in the case
per curiam opinion
: a usually very brief unanimous opinion attributed to the court as a whole and not to any particular judge
plurality opinion
: an opinion with which a majority of the judges on the court concur in result but not in reasoning
sep·a·rate opinion
: an opinion written separately by a judge who dissents or who concurs only in the result of the majority opinion
slip opinion
: an opinion published in temporary form soon after the decision is rendered b : a written explanation for a decision reached by an official (as an arbitrator) presiding over the nonjudicial resolution of a dispute



Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
: a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert <wanted a second opinion on the advisability of performing the operation>


Source: Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

opinion

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Opinion is when the assent of the understanding is so far gained by evidence of probability, that it rather inclines to one persussion than to another, yet not without a mixture of incertainty or doubting. --Sir M. Hale.

I can not put off my opinion so easily. --Shak.

2. The judgment or sentiment which the mind forms of persons or things; estimation.

I have bought golden opinions from all sorts of people. --Shak.

Friendship . . . gives a man a peculiar right and claim to the good opinion of his friend. --South.

However, I have no opinion of those things. --Bacon.

3. Favorable estimation; hence, consideration; reputation; fame; public sentiment or esteem. [Obs.]

Thou hast redeemed thy lost opinion. --Shak.

This gained Agricola much opinion, who . . . had made such early progress into laborious . . . enterprises. --Milton.

4. Obstinacy in holding to one's belief or impression; opiniativeness; conceitedness. [Obs.] --Shak.

5. (Law.) The formal decision, or expression of views, of a judge, an umpire, a counselor, or other party officially called upon to consider and decide upon a matter or point submitted.

To be of opinion, to think; to judge.

To hold opinion with, to agree with. [Obs.] --Shak.

Syn: Sentiment; notion; persuasion; idea; view; estimation. See Sentiment.


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opinion

\O*pin"ion\, v. t. To opine. [Obs.]


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opinion

n 1: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "what are your thoughts on Haiti?" [syn: sentiment, persuasion, view, thought] 2: a belief or sentiment shared by most people; the voice of the people; "he asked for a poll of public opinion" [syn: public opinion, popular opinion, vox populi] 3: a message expressing a belief about something; the expression of a belief that is held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof; "his opinions appeared frequently on the editorial page" [syn: view] 4: the legal document stating the reasons for a judicial decision; "opinions are usually written by a single judge" [syn: legal opinion, judgment, judgement] 5: the reason for a court's judgment (as opposed to the decision itself) [syn: ruling] 6: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying" [syn: impression, feeling, belief, notion]

 

[Androz]

Add Psychotic Waltz, Manowar, Ayreon, and Shadow Gallery. There's a good fellow!

since when manowar is prog???

 

[Taliwakker]

Add Psychotic Waltz, Manowar, Ayreon, and Shadow Gallery

This is like that Sesame Street game/song....One of these bands is not like the other ones, one of these bands is not the same.....

 

[The Yngster]

since when manowar is prog???

since when was this thread limited to prog?

 

[theodyssey]

BEkuZ Mat! This izz the SIMFONY X bord!!!! oNLY Pr0gg iz aloud HEAR!!! LOLZ!

 

[dargormudshark]

Oh... good come back.

Seriosuly, what do you expect me to do, cry about it?

And in all seriousness, i've only seen 1 or 2 bands live that were worse than Mars Volta, and that's not just because i don't like MV. That's because they really sucked a nut live. By the way this is something called an opinion.


In case you are too lazy, from www.dictionary.com

o·pin·ion ([font=verdana, sans-serif] P [/font]) Pronunciation Key (

-p

n

y

n)
n.

1. A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof: “The world is not run by thought, nor by imagination, but by opinion” (Elizabeth Drew).
2. A judgment based on special knowledge and given by an expert: a medical opinion.
3. A judgment or estimation of the merit of a person or thing: has a low opinion of braggarts.
4. The prevailing view: public opinion.
5. Law. A formal statement by a court or other adjudicative body of the legal reasons and principles for the conclusions of the court.

[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin op

ni

, op

ni

n-, from op

n

r

, to think.]

Synonyms: opinion, view, sentiment, feeling, belief, conviction, persuasion
These nouns signify something a person believes or accepts as being sound or true. Opinion is applicable to a judgment based on grounds insufficient to rule out the possibility of dispute: “A little group of willful men, representing no opinion but their own, have rendered the great Government of the United States helpless and contemptible” (Woodrow Wilson). View stresses individuality of outlook: “My view is... that freedom of speech means that you shall not do something to people either for the views they have or the views they express” (Hugo L. Black). Sentiment and especially feeling stress the role of emotion as a determinant: “If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences... reason is of no use to us” (George Washington). “There needs protection... against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling” (John Stuart Mill). A belief is a conclusion to which one subscribes strongly: “Our belief in any particular natural law cannot have a safer basis than our unsuccessful critical attempts to refute it” (Karl Popper). Conviction is belief that excludes doubt: “the editor's own conviction of what, whether interesting or only important, is in the public interest” (Walter Lippmann). Persuasion applies to a confidently held opinion: “He had a strong persuasion that Likeman was wrong” (H.G. Wells).​

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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opinion see form an opinion; matter of opinion.




Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine Ammer.
Copyright © 1997 by The Christine Ammer 1992 Trust. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.



opinion
A Certified Public Accountant's written attestation as to the fairness of presentation of financial statements. Anything other than an opinion that the statements have been presented fairly is a matter of serious concern to investors. Also called [font=arial,sans-serif]accountant's opinion[/font][font=arial,sans-serif], [/font][font=arial,sans-serif]auditor opinion[/font]. See also adverse opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]clean opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]disclaimer of opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]qualified opinion[font=arial,sans-serif], [/font]subject to opinion.




Source: Wall Street Words: An A to Z Guide to Investment Terms for Today's Investor by David L. Scott.
Copyright © 2003 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.



Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
1 a : a belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge b : a formal expression of a judgment or appraisal by an expert —see also opinion testimony at TESTIMONY —compare FACT
2 a : advice or evaluation regarding the legal issues involved in a situation given by an attorney to a client <an opinion of title> called also legal opinion —see also opinion letter at LETTER 1 b : an advisory opinion issued by an authorized public official (as an attorney general) or a recognized body (as the American Bar Association)
3 a : the formal written expression by a court or judge of the reasons and principles of law upon which the decision in a case is based —compare HOLDING, JUDGMENT, RULING advisory opinion
: a nonbinding opinion or evaluation of a court or other judicial or quasi-judicial authority or body regarding the effect of the law on a situation that does not present an actual controversy between parties <to answer questions which were not brought before this Court would be to issue an advisory opinion —JBC of Wyoming Corporation v. City of Cheyenne, 843 Pacific Reporter, Second Series 1190 (1992)>
NOTE: Advisory opinions are issued esp. by administrative agencies and by some state courts. Federal courts are constrained by the U.S. Constitution to deciding only cases or controversies and cannot issue advisory opinions.
concurring opinion
: an opinion by a judge who agrees with the result in a case but not necessarily with the reasoning used to reach it
dissenting opinion
: an opinion by a judge who disagrees with the result in a case
majority opinion
: an opinion in a case that is written by one judge and in which a majority of the judges on the court join
memorandum opinion
1 : a brief opinion of a court that announces the result of a case without extensive discussion and that is usually unpublished and cannot be cited as precedent
2 : an opinion of the U.S. Tax Court that is ordered not to be published but that is authoritative as precedent
3 a : an opinion of a court that sets forth the court's views or intended decision in a case but does not constitute the judgment b : an opinion of a court or judge setting forth the conclusions and findings and containing or constituting the actual order, judgment, or decree in the case
per curiam opinion
: a usually very brief unanimous opinion attributed to the court as a whole and not to any particular judge
plurality opinion
: an opinion with which a majority of the judges on the court concur in result but not in reasoning
sep·a·rate opinion
: an opinion written separately by a judge who dissents or who concurs only in the result of the majority opinion
slip opinion
: an opinion published in temporary form soon after the decision is rendered b : a written explanation for a decision reached by an official (as an arbitrator) presiding over the nonjudicial resolution of a dispute



Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Main Entry: opin·ion
Pronunciation: &-'pin-y&n
Function: noun
: a formal expression of judgment or advice by an expert <wanted a second opinion on the advisability of performing the operation>


Source: Merriam-Webster Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

opinion

\O*pin"ion\, n. [F., from L. opinio. See Opine.] 1. That which is opined; a notion or conviction founded on probable evidence; belief stronger than impression, less strong than positive knowledge; settled judgment in regard to any point of knowledge or action.

Opinion is when the assent of the understanding is so far gained by evidence of probability, that it rather inclines to one persussion than to another, yet not without a mixture of incertainty or doubting. --Sir M. Hale.

I can not put off my opinion so easily. --Shak.

2. The judgment or sentiment which the mind forms of persons or things; estimation.

I have bought golden opinions from all sorts of people. --Shak.

Friendship . . . gives a man a peculiar right and claim to the good opinion of his friend. --South.

However, I have no opinion of those things. --Bacon.

3. Favorable estimation; hence, consideration; reputation; fame; public sentiment or esteem. [Obs.]

Thou hast redeemed thy lost opinion. --Shak.

This gained Agricola much opinion, who . . . had made such early progress into laborious . . . enterprises. --Milton.

4. Obstinacy in holding to one's belief or impression; opiniativeness; conceitedness. [Obs.] --Shak.

5. (Law.) The formal decision, or expression of views, of a judge, an umpire, a counselor, or other party officially called upon to consider and decide upon a matter or point submitted.

To be of opinion, to think; to judge.

To hold opinion with, to agree with. [Obs.] --Shak.

Syn: Sentiment; notion; persuasion; idea; view; estimation. See Sentiment.


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opinion

\O*pin"ion\, v. t. To opine. [Obs.]


[Free Trial - Merriam-Webster Unabridged.]
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

opinion

n 1: a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "what are your thoughts on Haiti?" [syn: sentiment, persuasion, view, thought] 2: a belief or sentiment shared by most people; the voice of the people; "he asked for a poll of public opinion" [syn: public opinion, popular opinion, vox populi] 3: a message expressing a belief about something; the expression of a belief that is held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof; "his opinions appeared frequently on the editorial page" [syn: view] 4: the legal document stating the reasons for a judicial decision; "opinions are usually written by a single judge" [syn: legal opinion, judgment, judgement] 5: the reason for a court's judgment (as opposed to the decision itself) [syn: ruling] 6: a vague idea in which some confidence is placed; "his impression of her was favorable"; "what are your feelings about the crisis?"; "it strengthened my belief in his sincerity"; "I had a feeling that she was lying" [syn: impression, feeling, belief, notion]

This should win for best reply to any type of band bashing!

 

[ProgMetalFan]

actually, i thought that reply was pretty lame, tedious and lacking creativity... and considering he bashed someone else's opinion first makes it exceptionally ridiculous... if he can't take it, don't dish it

 

[Yngvai X]

actually, i thought that reply was pretty lame, tedious and lacking creativity... and considering he bashed someone else's opinion first makes it exceptionally ridiculous... if he can't take it, don't dish it

I don't see how he bashed your opinion that you liked the Mars Volta...he just stated that he thought they were bullshit....and at least he gave a reason for why he thought so.

 

[ProgMetalFan]

to refer to a band as nothing but "bullshit" is obvious flamebait




anyways... this discussion is well beyond retarded at this point


I don't need my musical tastes validated by theodyssey.