Hibria North American Tour - IM P**SED

[AngraRULES]

Hibria just announced 15 shows in North America for the months of May and June...


ALL IN FUCKING CANADA!!!!!!

May 26 - Victoria, British Columbia
May 27 - Vancouver, British Columbia
May 28 - Prince George, British Columbia
May 29 - Edmonton, Alberta
May 30 - Calgary, Alberta
May 31 - Regina, Saskatchewan
June 01 - Winnipeg, Manitoba
June 02 - Thunder Bay, Ontario
June 03 - Sudbury, Ontario
June 04 - Toronto, Ontario
June 05 - London, Ontario
June 06 - Ottawa, Ontario
June 07 - Montreal, Quebec
June 09 - Quebec, Quebec
June 10 - Halifax, Nova Scotia

 

[dcowboys311]

That's gotta be a joke

 

[AngraRULES]

I'm dead serious. They just booked an Asian tour and those shows in Canada. I'm so beyond pissed right now.

 

[dcowboys311]

That's some bullshit, I've been wanting to see Hibria for a long time. Lame.

 

[Kaosaur]

Yeah uh...isn't it well-established that getting travel visas from Brazil to the US is a fucking nightmare and a half?

 

[AngraRULES]

Yeah uh...isn't it well-established that getting travel visas from Brazil to the US is a fucking nightmare and a half?

It is, especially work visas.

 

[Diamond45]

Well, someone managed to get one for Andre Matos. So it must not be impossible?

 

[Kaosaur]

Well, someone managed to get one for Andre Matos. So it must not be impossible?

No but it is an expensive process and it's fairly easy to get denied.

The problem is mainly because US & Brazil's diplomatic relations are best described as "chilly at best"...for various reasons. Brazilians really do seem to be treated much more harshly in the visa and immigration processes than most other countries.

 

[Spiderpact]

That is terrible!!!!!!

I want to see Hibria SOOOO BAD!!!!

 

[edgeofthorns]

I remember getting my ass kicked on here a couple of months ago complaining about more Canadian dates than U.S. dates. I think it was in regards to the Stratovarius tour. Oh well, that sucks for you boys!

~Brian~

 

[J-Dubya 777]

Dammit! I'd actually go to the Pearl Room in Mokena to see those guys (and that is saying A LOT!)

 

[shaq]

I hope they enjoy playing to 7 people per show...should make it worth skipping everything else

 

[Angrafan]

No but it is an expensive process and it's fairly easy to get denied.

The problem is mainly because US & Brazil's diplomatic relations are best described as "chilly at best"...for various reasons. Brazilians really do seem to be treated much more harshly in the visa and immigration processes than most other countries.

Well, that's not exactly true... Brazil gets treated just like any other Latin American country. Understandably, immigration laws are tougher on Latin American countries than Europe or Japan because Latin American people have a tendency of entering the country and never leaving ... But that's true to any developing nation.

Relations between Brazil and the USA are fine, really.... Every now and then you will hear a story about some weird border-related stuff happening... But that's not exclusive to Brazil-USA relations...
Brazil is really serious about the concept of reciprocity... Whatever Brazilian citizens have to go through (and pay for) to get into the US, the same will be applied to an American trying to enter Brazil... When Brazilians started to get their photos and fingerprints taken, americans had to do the same thing in Brazil.... Some Americans didn't like that, it was a minor crisis... Recently Brazil had a problem with Italy and Spain too, so it's not a Brazil-US thing...



It's not that hard to get a tourist/temporary work/student visa if you meet the criteria...The Main thing, when you go do the interview at the american consulate in Brazil, is proving that you have something to get back to: A Job, steady income, a house, a family. Anything that will prove that you won't stay in the US for good... In the case of a temporary work visa, whoever is hiring your services just need to prove it's legit, etc..... It's a pain in the butt, but it's absolutely doable.

 

[Kaosaur]

Relations between Brazil and the USA are fine, really.... Every now and then you will hear a story about some weird border-related stuff happening... But that's not exclusive to Brazil-USA relations...
Brazil is really serious about the concept of reciprocity... Whatever Brazilian citizens have to go through (and pay for) to get into the US, the same will be applied to an American trying to enter Brazil... When Brazilians started to get their photos and fingerprints taken, americans had to do the same thing in Brazil.... Some Americans didn't like that, it was a minor crisis... Recently Brazil had a problem with Italy and Spain too, so it's not a Brazil-US thing...



It's not that hard to get a tourist/temporary work/student visa if you meet the criteria...The Main thing, when you go do the interview at the american consulate in Brazil, is proving that you have something to get back to: A Job, steady income, a house, a family. Anything that will prove that you won't stay in the US for good... In the case of a temporary work visa, whoever is hiring your services just need to prove it's legit, etc..... It's a pain in the butt, but it's absolutely doable.

As I understood it, the US has been giving Brazilians in particular immigration problems as punishment for Brazil's stance on foreign industries (particularly scientific research) making discoveries in the Amazon and Brazil not getting any financial compensation for it. Sort of like a retaliatory economic pressure. And as far as Brazil matching US restrictions, that's sort of a retaliatory diplomatic practice in itself.

Thank you for the clarification though.

 

[truemindframe]

Milton, Montreal is not that far from CT. Definitely close enough to drive.. 5 hours or so.

Hibria just announced 15 shows in North America for the months of May and June...


ALL IN FUCKING CANADA!!!!!!

May 26 - Victoria, British Columbia
May 27 - Vancouver, British Columbia
May 28 - Prince George, British Columbia
May 29 - Edmonton, Alberta
May 30 - Calgary, Alberta
May 31 - Regina, Saskatchewan
June 01 - Winnipeg, Manitoba
June 02 - Thunder Bay, Ontario
June 03 - Sudbury, Ontario
June 04 - Toronto, Ontario
June 05 - London, Ontario
June 06 - Ottawa, Ontario
June 07 - Montreal, Quebec
June 09 - Quebec, Quebec
June 10 - Halifax, Nova Scotia

 

[Angrafan]

As I understood it, the US has been giving Brazilians in particular immigration problems as punishment for Brazil's stance on foreign industries (particularly scientific research) making discoveries in the Amazon and Brazil not getting any financial compensation for it. Sort of like a retaliatory economic pressure. And as far as Brazil matching US restrictions, that's sort of a retaliatory diplomatic practice in itself.

Thank you for the clarification though.

Well, that could be true, I am not well informed enough about that... But I don't think it affects regular people visiting the US... There probably have other means of retaliation, you know? And it doesn't make much sense as a reliatory economic pressure, as the US is the one losing money (tourism from Brazilians in the US is BIG business... and Brazil is one of the major economies of the world, I am sure plenty of travel is done on business...).

We are getting way too serious on a thread about a band that just released an album called "the Skull collector"

 

[nailz]

I'm dead serious. They just booked an Asian tour and those shows in Canada. I'm so beyond pissed right now.

Stop whining and go to Toronto, it's only 8 hours from where you live, driving.

 

[Kaosaur]

Stop whining and go to Toronto, it's only 8 hours from where you live, driving.

He can't. Let's not bother getting into why.

 

[J-Dubya 777]

He can't. Let's not bother getting into why.

Milton's banned from Canada? Did he do bad things to a Mountie?

 

[Kaosaur]

Milton's banned from Canada? Did he do bad things to a Mountie?

You know... I was denied entry into Canada once, back when I was frequently traveling there. Not a fun experience. Having to answer questions about that each time after wasn't either.