Mike's new blog...

[all_sins_undone]

Well, that just about wraps it up for Opeth. As soon as you start throwing a bunch of influences into a patchwork quilt of a song which sounds like "this and that", you stop creating music as far as i'm concerned. I'll check the new album but this is very disappointing.

LMAO

 

[affinityband]

yeah rofl @ that. they have been doing it for years jackass.

 

[all_sins_undone]

ya prty much

 

[soundave]

Well, that just about wraps it up for Opeth. As soon as you start throwing a bunch of influences into a patchwork quilt of a song which sounds like "this and that", you stop creating music as far as i'm concerned. I'll check the new album but this is very disappointing.

Like we'd be able to better imagine his vision by him saying something like it's simply a further step in the musical growth of Opeth? I think it's intriguing to hear his take on his own compositions. And Opeth have pretty much always worn their influences on their collective sleeve, this is nothing new.

 

[nadavnaz]

I LOLED!

It's kinda ironic that mike plays guitar hero Seeing he REALLY plays the guitar! Great dudes opeth.. Greatdudes

 

[Slayer101]

great new! can't wait for the DVD to come out! and the album!

 

[Gordon Freeman]

Well, that just about wraps it up for Opeth. As soon as you start throwing a bunch of influences into a patchwork quilt of a song which sounds like "this and that", you stop creating music as far as i'm concerned. I'll check the new album but this is very disappointing.

No one creates any form of art without drawing from the influences of others. Nothing is 100% original. No matter what you come up with there will always be something similar that came before it....even if you aren't aware of it at the time.

 

[still day]

but he wants Opeth to be pigeon-holed into what "he" thinks is cool....it's all about me, me, me with this lot...let's moan and cry and be the pesimist....narrow-minded idiot!!!

 

[all_sins_undone]

iz it true mikole killed a bird

 

[hibernal_dream]

No one creates any form of art without drawing from the influences of others. Nothing is 100% original. No matter what you come up with there will always be something similar that came before it....even if you aren't aware of it at the time.

When Beethoven was writing his 5th did he write in his blog "oh i'll just combine a little Bach, some Scarlatti chops and a touch of Mozart, I think my fans will be really impressed" No! There's a difference between drawing on influences to create an original work (MAYH), and defining a work solely by reference to those influences (~100% of modern music). Music is not a recipe with a certain number of ingredients, the ratio of which conditions its quality.

 

[i aint play this]

I only agree with you because your sig completely destroys

 

[Lothlorien]

YES a progapalooza would own
opeth, PT, axamenta, riverside, anathema, just a few

As far as the opeth news: im more excited for the dvd than the new cd..is that bad?

I too am more excited about the dvd than the album. simply because I am in absolute shock that the dvd wil be out so soon. i remember mr. samsara told us it'd be out in september. this has made my day, something to look forward to in just a short couple of months.

what wonderous news we have recieved. the way mikael described his ideas gave me goosebumps.

LOL ROFL LMAO to hibernal. what a shit thing to say. u judge the sound of a record based on a paragraph of ideas mikael told us. u cant possibly tell me u didnt think everyone on this board was not going to flame you for posting something so stupid.

 

[x_OPETH_x]

When Beethoven was writing his 5th did he write in his blog "oh i'll just combine a little Bach, some Scarlatti chops and a touch of Mozart, I think my fans will be really impressed" No! There's a difference between drawing on influences to create an original work (MAYH), and defining a work solely by reference to those influences (~100% of modern music). Music is not a recipe with a certain number of ingredients, the ratio of which conditions its quality.

i agree...the "patchwork" thing has gotten more and more obvious since Deliverance....Ghost Reveries being blatantly so.

MAYH ftw....thank you

 

[Mr Samsara]

Ok, you guys..... hold on. I'm going to cut you some slack for being so excited.... but let's review.

I was told by managment to expect a September DVD release. That is a lot of months, but nice to have something very cool to look forward to well in advance of the new record. Mike was nice enough to let you in on the progress.... the product (DVD itself) is basically done. I'm pretty sure there is nothing set for distribution as we speak. There is quite a bit to do between editing the content and getting it into the fans hands. Try to be realistic, ok? There is no law that says I need to tell you all this but I'm just trying to keep you from setting yourselves up for dissapointment. Next it'll be Mike's fault that it's not released by whatever stupid date you randomly assigned from your asses and the inevitable bitching and moaning..... please ftlog.... Mike said, "Release date? Don't know right now, I guess late Spring." and you're printing invitations with dates for your viewing parties. *siGH*

Expect it in the 4th quarter of the year and hope it happens much sooner via some miracle. It's the wise thing to do.

 

[Mr Samsara]

When Beethoven was writing his 5th did he write in his blog "oh i'll just combine a little Bach, some Scarlatti chops and a touch of Mozart, I think my fans will be really impressed" No! There's a difference between drawing on influences to create an original work (MAYH), and defining a work solely by reference to those influences (~100% of modern music). Music is not a recipe with a certain number of ingredients, the ratio of which conditions its quality.

i agree...the "patchwork" thing has gotten more and more obvious since Deliverance....Ghost Reveries being blatantly so.

MAYH ftw....thank you

You two would probably be more comfortable discussing this here or here

 

[Don Corleone]

Well, that just about wraps it up for Opeth. As soon as you start throwing a bunch of influences into a patchwork quilt of a song which sounds like "this and that", you stop creating music as far as i'm concerned. I'll check the new album but this is very disappointing.

you just cant help but type such a stupid comment to bash the band, can you? as always :Smug:

 

[Don Corleone]

When Beethoven was writing his 5th did he write in his blog "oh i'll just combine a little Bach, some Scarlatti chops and a touch of Mozart, I think my fans will be really impressed" No! There's a difference between drawing on influences to create an original work (MAYH), and defining a work solely by reference to those influences (~100% of modern music). Music is not a recipe with a certain number of ingredients, the ratio of which conditions its quality.

all this about an album that is being written at the moment as you speak? how can you say you're not criticising just to be different from the rest?

 

[biggsy]

When Beethoven was writing his 5th did he write in his blog "oh i'll just combine a little Bach, some Scarlatti chops and a touch of Mozart, I think my fans will be really impressed" No! There's a difference between drawing on influences to create an original work (MAYH), and defining a work solely by reference to those influences (~100% of modern music). Music is not a recipe with a certain number of ingredients, the ratio of which conditions its quality.

settle down sweetheart. its not like hes taking exact parts of other peoples music to create a mishmash album of ripped of tracks. hes trying to describe to us how the music sounds, or is intended to sound. what do you want him to do, write out the fucking sheet music? it is absolutely natural for musicians to draw on others for inspiration. wait and listen to the album before declaring your disappointment and calling it a ripoff of all the influences listed. in conclusion, stop being such an antagonistic peice of shit and say something youve thought about before writing

 

[DEMIgOD]

how many of us writing songs, hear something neat. and go DAMN I NEED TO DO SOMETHING JUST LIKE THIS! so you play it, and tell your buddy " dude i wrote an awesome riff, it reminds me of black sabbath!" So that paints a picture of a slow, scathing and evil riff.

this is what Mike is doing. I think mike is compairing these new ideas to these bands because its easyer to convay what it sounds like through mentioning other bands then simply trying to tell you how it sounds.

So shush and be happy mike is giving us something to suck on for another year until the record comes out.

 

[hibernal_dream]

settle down sweetheart. its not like hes taking exact parts of other peoples music to create a mishmash album of ripped of tracks. hes trying to describe to us how the music sounds, or is intended to sound. what do you want him to do, write out the fucking sheet music? it is absolutely natural for musicians to draw on others for inspiration. wait and listen to the album before declaring your disappointment and calling it a ripoff of all the influences listed. in conclusion, stop being such an antagonistic peice of shit and say something youve thought about before writing

Stop imputing things I did not say.
These include imputations that:
1. M was/is ripping off anyone
2. I'm judging anything but the blog
3. I'm disappointed with the album (laughably, before it is written)

You are therefore not allowed to discuss these matters anymore. Just because some musicians (99&#37 write a song a certain way is not a reason to do that as well. Opeth is talented and can make original songs without doing that (see MAYH, Morningrise) - why should they sink to that level?