A Sound of Thunder made it to CNN

[Harris The Epic]

Hey guyz, what's going on here?
Oh wow, people yelling at a woman for mentioning her band in a story that happens to be about her. This seems really fun and extremely productive.

Yes, the story is about her weight loss, but it's also a Human Interest piece, right? Isn't the definition of a Human Interest Piece supposed to be "a piece about a human being of interest"? Someone thought Nina was an interesting enough human being to do a news article on, and that someone happened to be at CNN. I don't know who went to who for the idea of reporting on Nina's weight-loss and management, but if it's good enough for someone whose job it is to write about interesting people, then what's the big deal? If you're really that butthurt about it, cool. Go be butthurt, but it's not like they'll take the article down or anything.

When I see something like this, where they mention something that I like in an article about something else, it does interest me more than if they didn't mention it.
In this case, Nina lost weight and happens to sing in a band. That interests me a lot more than if it was something like "Nina lost weight and went on to become an actress". I'm not nearly as sentimental to acting as I am to music. And then I hear "... singer for a heavy metal band", another lightbulb of curiosity goes on. A far greater one than if it had said something like Country or Pop. Does it make me a bad person that I have biases? No, it makes me a person. That's what happens with people, they're naturally attracted to things they like.

 

[OrbWeaver]

It would be interesting to hear female perspectives. The only one I hear is the one getting ready for work who I'm reading this thread to.

I gave about as much of my perspective on the whole thing as I am willing to give. I think it's clear enough that I'm on Nina's side, but beyond that, I've been ascribing to the old adage, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

 

[Reverend Su]

as a FFC (former fat chick), i say good on ya for the weight loss.
and, vital note, for keeping it off for so long!

the article, as anything these days, slanted your words to show you in a poor light ('wah, he called me fat...i am no longer fat and i dumped his ass' <-- sells the story better than 'i lost weight, i front a metal band, life is good').

i don't know anything about your band or you, so i can't say anything on that matter.

i will say this: you could have said the most simple things, not mentioned the ex at all, and the shitbrains who troll would still have written nasty things about you and what your story imparted.

do your thing, don't let the snarks get to you.
i'm old, have a plethora of haters, and know from whence i speak

 

[DuchessOfDork]

i will say this: you could have said the most simple things, not mentioned the ex at all, and the shitbrains who troll would still have written nasty things about you and what your story imparted.

 

[Harris The Epic]

do your thing, don't let the snarks get to you.

This.

i'm old, have a plethora of haters, and know from whence i speak

You're not old, Su

 

[Reverend Su]

You're not old, Su

awwwwww...such a charmer you are, Harris xx ::smishes::

 

[Cheyanne]

Sexy no, but interesting yes.
Wonder Woman is a great and strong role model for women. The character was created by a misogynistic man who was married to a woman who seemed to have no issue that his mistress also living with the family. And he also liked to tie up woman and put them into submission.
If anyone has issues with Misogyny I would not think they would want to sport a WW shirt
Ah reading to much into it, but still something about it was striking me as funny.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with a man living with 2 women if they're both kosher with it. It's called Polyamory, and it's becoming more mainstream/acceptable as time goes on. Also nothing wrong with a bit of bondage, if that's what you're into.

Female metal singer weighing in here (no pun intended) - knowing more of the background (ie knowing the ex was abusive, etc etc), it does suck that the article was twisted and piecemealed.
I don't however, find any issue with the band being mentioned. For one thing, it goes to show you can go from a frumpy fat girl, so uncomfortable in her own skin she considered herself thankful for having an abusive ass as a boyfriend because he at least wanted her (Sorry Nina!!) to being a confident, fit/healthy woman, who not only realizes her own worth but inspires those around her (ie young women in metal) as the frontwoman of a successful metal band (and if you'd like to argue if ASOT is successful or not,I point you to their last Kickstarter).

That being said, IMO people (men AND women mind you) fear that which is "different". They fear this strong, independent woman in front of them, and it's far easier to find something to tear you down about than to say "Well, hell, good on you. I haven't achieved the success you have, but I'm pleased for you and wish you the best."

So, I'll say it...
You guys in ASOT have busted your arses to achieve a hell of a lot more than a lot of local metal bands have been able to (I can't wait to rebuilt mine post move and get started again), and I'm proud of you for it. Good on you. And good on you for the weight loss and keeping it off, Nina.

 

[GammaJosh]

that is exactly where the intgrity comes in, with women that really don't have to boast about it. It is easier to respect women who don't make the fuse over it or actually will even step away from that focus on them.

Thank you, Jeremy. I think that is the most telling comment of the thread. Is it a struggle for you to respect women? What exactly are the stringent rules that women must adhere to in order to earn your respect?

 

[GammaJosh]

Back to point: this interview bringing attention to one&#8217;s body and then using that platform to promote one&#8217;s band is no different than using their body in any other way to achieve the same results. I believe it was even said earlier that new fans have been made because Nina is an &#8220;inspiration&#8221; to fat women now or something like that, well oviously those fans did not come aboard based on musical merit now did they.
Gain attention for your by by any means you can, but at least be honest about how you are doing it.

First of all, I know an s-ton of people who got into Iron Maiden because the covers were badass. So I see no problem with people getting into a band for reasons other than musical merit, as long as there is in fact musical merit to be found.

Second of all, you have twisted around the idea of "using ones body" to equate an article about weight loss with flashing a bunch of skin and fake hooters like Huntress. Two completely different things.

 

[Justin G]

What's wrong with Huntress? Those albums kick ass.

 

[GammaJosh]

Yeah, I got my tours mixed up. It was Accident of Birth I was thinking of.

Nightmare fuel:

 

[Cheyanne]

Nightmare fuel:

Bah.... He's got nothing on David Bowie in Labyrinth...

 

[GammaJosh]

What's wrong with Huntress? Those albums kick ass.

Uh-oh, here comes another 200 posts!

From most accounts, the albums are kickass. A lot of people, including me, take issue with the way Jill Janus markets the band with her huge fake tits (which really don't look right on her Skeletor body to begin with) and semi-frequent partial nudity. I think that is a completely separate issue or at least a whole other level compared to Nina being featured in an article about weight loss. Huntress is clearly marketing their singer as spank material. Granted, Jill Janus can do whatever the hell she wants, and I suspect she is totally behind the marketing of her band, not being used or victimized...but for me, that band has crossed a line into cheap marketing ploy territory. I resent anyone twisting the article about Nina into anything resembling Huntress-style marketing.

However, I feel slightly bad about using any negative female example here, because a couple people here clearly have major issues with women in general, and I'm probably only fueling their misogyny.

 

[Justin G]

Uh-oh, here comes another 200 posts! From most accounts, the albums are kickass. A lot of people, including me, take issue with the way Jill Janus markets the band with her huge fake tits (which really don't look right on her Skeletor body to begin with) and semi-frequent partial nudity. I think that is a completely separate thing that what Nina has done by being featured in an article about weight loss. Huntress is clearly marketing their singer as spank material. Granted, Jill Janus can do whatever the hell she wants, and I suspect she is totally behind the marketing of her band, not being used or victimized...but for me, that band has crossed a line into cheap marketing ploy territory. I resent anyone twisting the article about Nina into anything resembling Huntress-style marketing.

Sorry, but she's marketing her band and raising their profile just like you are. Or Benedictum. Or any band where a male singer goes shirtless. It's only cheap if the music isn't any good.

 

[DuchessOfDork]

For the record, I have nothing against people using their boobs to do what they want. I just don't have that option. >_>

 

[OrionSon]

Jill Janus used to be a topless DJ. I feel that might be relevant to this situation. I don't get too much of a cheap "selling the band with her looks" thing from Huntress.

Also, I don't get the "women in metal are ok if they don't make it obvious" business. Basically the woman has to stay in the shadows otherwise she's selling the band with her body? What about the cover of Devin Townsend's Infinity? He's naked on that one. Is that selling sex?

 

[GammaJosh]

Sorry, but she's marketing her band and raising their profile just like you are. Or Benedictum. Or any band where a male singer goes shirtless. It's only cheap if the music isn't any good.

Agree to disagree I guess. To me, it is cheap because if bare tits are involved, people will listen to or go see a band even if they make bad music. I think Butcher Babies proves this phenomenon. At least with Huntress there is some musical substance there, but in my mind tweeting out naked selfies of yourself on the toilet does reflect poorly on a band and affects the way I perceive their music.

 

[DuchessOfDork]

What about the cover of Devin Townsend's Infinity? He's naked on that one. Is that selling sex?

It's only selling sex if you're a lady.

 

[The Surfing Alien]

Too sexy!!

https://screen.yahoo.com/ah-yes-show-gina-cutter-000000957.html

 

[J. Golden]

Thank you, Jeremy. I think that is the most telling comment of the thread. Is it a struggle for you to respect women? What exactly are the stringent rules that women must adhere to in order to earn your respect?

Good attempt at twisting that.
A truly strong woman who would strive for credit on her musical merit doesn't have to say "I'm a woman in music", as if she is asking for extra consideration for a handicap or something.
Wonder if Marie Curie was underlining the fact that she was a woman. Note; I mention her because I believe she might actually be an "inspiration" to women.
So what is it going to be, a level playing field or a girls club, a boys club?