General Zod
Ruler of Australia
No. I feel Matt's lyrics are average and Nick's are exceptional. I'd put Nick on par with Warrel (Nevermore), Paul (Novembers Doom) and Mikael (Opeth) as the best lyricists in Metal.
Zod
THEOCRACY-Mirror Of Souls
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Zod
Sir Exar Kun
Member
Seconded. Matt should have no shame at all in not being on par with Nick, as Nick is in the very elite tier of metal lyricists. The same would hold true for many of the other "giants" of the genre also, as Nick blows 99% of them away.
Daybreaker
Red, Hot, and Heavy
If the lyrics are good I don't care. I mean, I like spooky shit too, I remember getting off to old King Diamond cds when I was everything horror and occult related. But as long as the words are sincere, and don't tell me that I'm a douche that's on a fast track to hell, Christian lyrics are ok to me. You know, as long as I don't feel like I'm being told I'm wrong, and this is the right way to go or else! yeah. Shit man, some very interesting songs that I love are religiously based. Iced Earth with Melancholy. Edguy and Theater Of Salvation Or all the crazy stuff in Revelations.
Mr. Zane of HW
Member
I think Matt's lyrics are tame in comparison to 80's Christian metal. I was involved with that scene for many years and it just got ridiculous and uncreative. I personally feel that Theocracy has done it properly and without all the uber-cheese of old. If you feel it, you should write it. I do understand why General zod would feel the way he does though, as overly zealous preachy lyrics grind my gears.so we'll just agree to disagree on Theocracy.
Metalmilitia2000
UM's Resident Asshole
I had the unmastered version for a while that I got from Matt some time ago, and I must say, I was blown away by it. The mastered version blows THAT version away. I do believe that this one is leaps and bounds over the first album and I LOVED the first album. Matt, your labor of love has greatly paid off on this album, you busted your ass and put out damn near a masterpiece.
Metalmilitia2000
UM's Resident Asshole
You know what else grinds my gears? When I can't find the droids I am looking for.
CAlexanderParra
Nocturnal Dream
This album is freakin' great! I can't think of anything off the album I don't like. The lyrics don't bother me at all & I'm not christian but I very much respect Matt's views.
I think Matt's lyrics are tame in comparison to 80's Christian metal. I was involved with that scene for many years and it just got ridiculous and uncreative
I don't know if they are more tame, in fact I think they are more intensely religious than what the 80s bands were putting out. But I do agree that the 80s scene got uncreative. Stryper and White Cross and all those were just repeating the same concepts over and over, either "Time to give God all the glory" or "accept God now, tomorrow's too late". Theocracy actually gets into specific issues of faith and human weakness and that's universal even if you aren't a Christian.
I don't know if they are more tame, in fact I think they are more intensely religious than what the 80s bands were putting out. But I do agree that the 80s scene got uncreative. Stryper and White Cross and all those were just repeating the same concepts over and over, either "Time to give God all the glory" or "accept God now, tomorrow's too late". Theocracy actually gets into specific issues of faith and human weakness and that's universal even if you aren't a Christian.
I think that both the music and the lyrics are very well done on this album, and Matt's vocals have never sounded better! This album contains some of the classic elements of great bands such as Stryper, Iron Maiden, and Savatage. Brilliant power metal! I feel blessed every time I hear this CD!
I loved their S/T debut disc (10/10), but this album definitely surpassed it!
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Mr. Zane of HW
Member
Maybe not so much more religous, but how about mature?He has a well balanced and very intellectual look at the world and how his faith affects his life. I agree that his lyrics are unmistakingly Christian, but more akin to C.S. Lewis as opposed to Billy Graham.
Purveyor Of Evil
Heavy Metal, INC.
Purveyor Of Evil
Heavy Metal, INC.
CRIMSON MOONLIGHT actually is the band really carrying the banner for Christian Black Metal these days.
Pellaz
Tigron of Immanion
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Kind of like saying, they're a Metal band who uses a xylophone and a tambourine, instead of a guitar and drums.
Zod
Hal9000
Dark Lord
Instead of following the trend of the week (e.g. Christian Black Metal, Christian Death Metal) why don't these bands develop their own sound, their own identity? I guess religion has a tendency to hinder creativity.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Agreed.
The whole idea is so absurd. Black Metal can't be separated from its anti-Christian roots.
Zod
edgeofthorns
24 Hours Ago...
Hal, please clear this statement up for me, because I'm not following what you're saying. Does singing about "Satanism" make you more creative than singing about Christ? Please enlighten me...
~Brian~
edgeofthorns
24 Hours Ago...
You're wrong. Black Metal is a style of music. Yes, some of these black metal guys claim to live out their views. With that said, if an average person claims to practice "Satanism" is that person considered "black metal" automatically, eventhough they might not even like metal music of any type?
~Brian~
Hal9000
Dark Lord
Satanism and christianity are two sides of the same coin. That statement was about religion, not christianity specifically. For that matter, have you ever heard of a muslim artist or a muslim band?
