At least you guys actually got to see Maiden this tour. Unlike some of us in other parts of the nation.
2008 Iron Maiden Tour Merchandise
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kittybeast
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Kitty....sorry we didn't get a chance to hook up and exchange hellos
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maybe Scorps or Priest show we'll meet. Hell
it took me like 7 shows to finally meet Mloana in person! 
kittybeast
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I just posted a very looooooong review on myspace if anyone is interested to know what sort of action we had.
At least I get to see them on the opening night at Wacken in July since they aren't playing very close to Kansas City and I get to see all the Wacken bands and Headbangers Open Air bands the week before! I guess I'll look at that shirt quality closely before buying.
Cool pics! Thanks for sharing! Pabla make it through the gig ok?
Yep, I did not pass out!
Maiden are the best live band in the world... I am still daydreaming about them
It was such an amazing weekend....2 back to back Maiden gigs is HEAVEN! or HELL 
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Yep, I did not pass out!
Maiden are the best live band in the world... I am still daydreaming about them
Hah! AWESOME!
Never did back to back Maiden gigs, but I did see them 3 times on TNotB tour.
Chicagofest, co-headline with Priest (iirc) at the Amphitheater, and then at Alpine Valley with the Scorps. I really wanted to catch them on this tour, but looks like I blew it again.....
Did anyone attend the Seattle show? Wondering if they had shirts just for that show? Can't wait for Chicago show - 2 more days!
kittybeast
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DoomsdayZach
The Professor was right
I was at the seattle show, did not see any shirts specifically for seattle. Too bad, the city specific ones are usually the coolest. I saw an awesome one for the iron maiden Nordic tour that someone was wearing. I wanted to buy it off the dude
edit: here it is
edit: here it is
I don't know... I took a look, and there are some listings at $119, but those are all ending several days from now, and don't seem to be generating much traffic, at least not yet. If you look at a wider array of Iron Maiden shirts (not just shirts from this tour), most seem to be selling for well under the price they sell for at a concert. If that's the case, I can just wait some months and get one once the furor dies down. If that doesn't happen, I'm not really going to be broken up by the fact that I didn't spend $40 for a cotton shirt with a band's name and picture stenciled on it, especially knowing almost half that money goes to the venue. I mean, I already have so many freaking t-shirts (including about 10 Iron Maiden shirts) that I don't know what to do with them. The one strategy that might be worthwhile is if the show I go to has one of those unique shirts that is only sold at that show, I could maybe buy 2, and hope to sell one for at least 1.5 times what I bought it for. At any rate, I think there's a good chance one of the more generalized, non-show-specific shirts will show up online for a reasonable price some months down the road. Or I may just not buy a shirt at all. Actually, I'm still sitting on 2 of the shirts that they sold only at their July 4, 2000 show in New York... brand new, never worn. Maybe those are worth something now. Maybe not. I really have no basis for comparison.
kittybeast
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I was at the seattle show, did not see any shirts specifically for seattle. Too bad, the city specific ones are usually the coolest. I saw an awesome one for the iron maiden Nordic tour that someone was wearing. I wanted to buy it off the dude
edit: here it is
ebay has a couple. though it is ridiculous when someone puts a $199 buy it now on a special event shirt... not saying this one does but one of the LA event one's.
murderedbysound
MurderedbySound
Eh...her stage presence needs work. She seems like she doesn't know what to do up there. She's pretty damn hot though. She reminded me a lot of the singer from He is Legend.. AWFUL! She can sing but needs work up on the stage. Her lyrics needs some work to - case in point the song Let Us Be.
Prog_Muse
Look Who The Cat Dragged In
Just wanted to say that I went to the show here in Concord and they were ON.
Bruce sounded better than ever; great set, and Rime in its entirety?!? Fuckin-A right!
Bruce sounded better than ever; great set, and Rime in its entirety?!? Fuckin-A right!
Well, I have to say, after spending way too much time thinking / talking about it, I went to the show on June 14 in Holmdel, and made out big-time on t-shirt front. Everyone I was with was getting a shirt, so I sort of felt pressured into getting one, heh. I went up to the booth and asked for one of the "statue of liberty" shirts that was only sold at the New York and New Jersey shows, and had those dates (June 14, 2008 and June 15, 2008) listed on back. It was $35, as were all the other t-shirts. The guy behind the vendor booth gave me the shirt, I handed him a $100 bill, and he went over to his cash box and very quickly counted out the change and handed it to me. I noticed something a little odd when he was counting it, and confirmed this when I was walking to my seat and counted it myself, finding that he gave me $125 in change. So, basically, he had just paid me $25 to take the shirt. Then things proceeded to go pretty well from there. When Lauren Harris came on, the place was like 1/8 filled, so I was able to get fairly close up and watch her prancing around in her skin-tight leather pants, lol. Then, as I was waiting for Trivium to come on, I took a look at the venue's program-guide booklet, and noticed that they had a ridiculous "designated driver" program. So I signed up for it, and got a free soda. Just when I was starting to get thirsty, too! Then, when Iron Maiden came on, I was able to swing right by the guy who was guarding the aisle, and get from the 22nd row up to the 6th row. The greatest thing was when some guy came up asking everyone to see their tickets. When he got to me, I acted casual and handed him my ticket, getting ready to give him the "What? I'm in the wrong seat? Oh, my mistake, if you show me where my seat is I'd be happy to go there!" But he glanced at my ticket, said "Thanks!" and walked away. Then the show itself was obviously incredible. So even though I had to travel 1100 miles to see them (admittedly, I needed to make a trip to New Jersey anyway, so I just scheduled it at the time of the show), and the ticket cost over $90, I guess I made out pretty well, heh.
Then, when Iron Maiden came on, I was able to swing right by the guy who was guarding the aisle, and get from the 22nd row up to the 6th row. The greatest thing was when some guy came up asking everyone to see their tickets. When he got to me, I acted casual and handed him my ticket, getting ready to give him the "What? I'm in the wrong seat? Oh, my mistake, if you show me where my seat is I'd be happy to go there!" But he glanced at my ticket, said "Thanks!" and walked away. Then the show itself was obviously incredible. So even though I had to travel 1100 miles to see them (admittedly, I needed to make a trip to New Jersey anyway, so I just scheduled it at the time of the show), and the ticket cost over $90, I guess I made out pretty well, heh.
The_Q
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Well, I have to say, after spending way too much time thinking / talking about it, I went to the show on June 14 in Holmdel, and made out big-time on t-shirt front. Everyone I was with was getting a shirt, so I sort of felt pressured into getting one, heh. I went up to the booth and asked for one of the "statue of liberty" shirts that was only sold at the New York and New Jersey shows, and had those dates (June 14, 2008 and June 15, 2008) listed on back. It was $35, as were all the other t-shirts. The guy behind the vendor booth gave me the shirt, I handed him a $100 bill, and he went over to his cash box and very quickly counted out the change and handed it to me. I noticed something a little odd when he was counting it, and confirmed this when I was walking to my seat and counted it myself, finding that he gave me $125 in change. So, basically, he had just paid me $25 to take the shirt. Then things proceeded to go pretty well from there. When Lauren Harris came on, the place was like 1/8 filled, so I was able to get fairly close up and watch her prancing around in her skin-tight leather pants, lol. Then, as I was waiting for Trivium to come on, I took a look at the venue's program-guide booklet, and noticed that they had a ridiculous "designated driver" program. So I signed up for it, and got a free soda. Just when I was starting to get thirsty, too!
You didn't say if you returned the incorrect change to the vendor or not. If you did, what a honest righteous guy you are. If you didn't you are nothing more than a thief, especially because you noticed it! Sure it was their mistake but that would be very dishonest to do.
No, I didn't return the excess change. And yes, I am far too cynical to claim that I am an "honest righteous guy", so you're right there. I don't know if that makes me "nothing more than a thief", as personally, I do see some difference in getting excess change through no action of my own, and actually reaching into the cash box and grabbing money out of it... I mean, declining to look a gift horse in the mouth does not constitute active theft.
Also, having bought such an expensive ticket and t-shirt, I was already feeling vaguely pissed off about how high the costs were, so giving away extra money that had just dropped into my lap wasn't the first thing on my mind. Granted, if I thought the costs were too high, I could have chosen simply not to go, but since I went even though I thought the costs were high, you can perhaps understand that while I was not going to physically grab someone else's money or property, I was not in the most magnanimous mood, and didn't have a strong urge to return money that was dropped in my lap, to a huge corporation that was already profiting handsomely from me.
Would I have thought differently about it if it were not some minimum-wage guy working a corporate vendor booth, but instead some small, independent vendor who was personally going to take a hit by losing that money? Yes. In that case I probably would have given the money back. Is that truly the proper way to think? No. A company isn't any more deserving of cashiering errors just because it's larger... but even if it's not, that's the thought process.
Also, at the end of the day, what would have happened if the guy had given me *less* change than I was owed? A small independent vendor might have worked with me on it. But in this situation, if I came storming back to this guy 4 - 5 minutes later saying he shorted me on change, exactly how likely do you think it is that he would have popped open the cash box and given me the extra money? Again, the truly "honest righteous guy" you mention above would probably return the excess money he was given, even with the knowledge that he would not be treated so fairly if he had been shorted on change. Such a morally upright person would feel that other people's failure to act righteously does not give him license to do the same.
However, like most people, I've been screwed enough times in life that I'm too cynical at this point to be that "honest righteous guy". I consider myself a relatively OK person, but yeah, there are certain morally ambiguous areas where if I feel like I'm making out, I'll just roll with it. Perhaps you are honest and righteous enough to have returned the excess change simply on principle. If so, congratulations. But the fact is, the majority of people aren't, even if they wouldn't admit it. If they were, you wouldn't even need a cashier at the vendor booth, you could just put all the shirts out there, and have a big bowl of money in the middle with a sign reading "Take shirt, leave money!"
DoomsdayZach
The Professor was right
I think that it's a little ridiculous to insinuate that this guy is awful for taking money that was handed to him. I would have kept it too if i'm going to be honest. In general, life screws you so when you have an opportunity to get a bit ahead, especially when it doesn't involve stepping on the "little guy" to get ahead, I'm going to take it.
The_Q
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I still stand by my comment. Its merely my opinion. Dishonesty is dishonesty no matter how you look at it. You can't be a little bit a thief just like you can't be a little bit pregnant.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. But don't try to back down now. You're proposing moral absolutes here. If right is right and wrong is wrong, as you suggest, that's not something that you can just write off as being merely an opinion. It would, by definition, be an absolute fact. The only way it could be merely an opinion is if there was some potential for moral ambiguity... but your very premise of moral absolutism directly contradicts that possibility.
Perhaps. But considering that I never made any claim to be an ultra-moral, super-honest guy, I don't see how this applies. I also didn't make any specific commitment before walking in there not to accept excess change that might be given to me.
Indeed. In this case, I am not at all a thief, and not at all pregnant. If I reached into the guy's cash box and took the money, that would make me a thief. Not returning excess change that was handed to me does not make me a thief.
The way you phrased this comment leads me to believe you did not really even read or consider the points I made in my post. And perhaps your determination to view the world in strict black and white terms stems from the fact that you have always taken the most morally upright stance, and have never done anything in your entire life that could ever be called into question. If so, congratulations. Also, perhaps you have not had the number and extent of experiences in your life of the kind which have made me a cynical asshole, and you have thus maintained a righteous perspective. If so, congratulations again. You are truly a beacon of morality in these troubled times.*
* Yes, that last sentence was me being sarcastic and cynical. I figured I better point that out, since based on your posts, it's apparently not a frame of mind you're familiar with. If that's the case, I actually sort of envy you. How nice it would be to always operate with the absolute certainty that everything I do is the absolute right thing.
The_Q
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I am not backing down from anything. I read your reply many times and understand what you did. When you take everything into account what you did was wrong plain and simple. Like it or not. Does that make me perfect? Hell No!!!!! And yes right and wrong seems to go from person to person these days. Unfortunately what our society deems right and wrong rarely transcends from society to the individual person. This is the way I have always felt. There are a few times in my life that I am not proud of. But it is those times that have helped shape my moral beliefs to the person I am today. My question is this, Why do you think I am backing down from something merely because I replied that I stand by my comment? Thats kind of strange don't you think?
